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04-28-2012, 10:26 PM
Post: #151
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(04-28-2012 09:37 PM)teamnoelftw. Wrote:  
(04-28-2012 04:10 PM)mirandagirl Wrote:  Can we like get rid of the Zanessa thread? I feel it has no place on this forum and it breaks like half of the forum rules. I feel like this would be a lot more peaceful place if it wasn't here.

Seriously. It is not even up for debate anymore. It should've been gone the MOMENT Zanessa broke up so we can move on and be happy with whoever they now hook up with. It's not even a place where people can hope they get back together anymore.

What started as a fun and respectful place to be is now a idiotic fight fest. It's disgusting really.

Or better yet, ban the people who start the arguments in the first place. There IS an ignore option for users here, you know? God.

I don't even go on there, but I just have this feeling that nothing good is going on there.

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04-29-2012, 12:46 AM
Post: #152
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Oh, trust me, Miranda. It never is anymore.

I think this has to be said, regardless of what happens. If Zanessa hadn't broken up at all, I think the thread would be the peaceful thread it once was. But they went their separate ways and so should we. It's not even about Zanessa anymore, and I honestly do not recognize that thread.

And I think the whole forum needs more moderation and stricter rules than ever now. That's what made this whole place more peaceful, I think. There needs to be stricter rules and stricter moderators than what we have been seeing nowadays. I think this is partially why the forum isn't doing so well, and why we haven't seen a lot of members come in. They are scared off because of the constant fighting or they get involved and it makes things go 100% worse.

The whole forum has made a complete 180 from what it used to be and I'm tired of it. I think we should bring back the moderators and have them take control. Or better yet, allow some members to be official moderators again until permanent positions can be filled.

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04-29-2012, 02:14 PM (This post was last modified: 04-29-2012 02:52 PM by lashay12.)
Post: #153
RE: Rants.
(04-28-2012 09:37 PM)teamnoelftw. Wrote:  
(04-28-2012 04:10 PM)mirandagirl Wrote:  Can we like get rid of the Zanessa thread? I feel it has no place on this forum and it breaks like half of the forum rules. I feel like this would be a lot more peaceful place if it wasn't here.

Seriously. It is not even up for debate anymore. It should've been gone the MOMENT Zanessa broke up so we can move on and be happy with whoever they now hook up with. It's not even a place where people can hope they get back together anymore.

What started as a fun and respectful place to be is now a idiotic fight fest. It's disgusting really.

Or better yet, ban the people who start the arguments in the first place. There IS an ignore option for users here, you know? God.

i can't help but feel that maybe that was directed towards me. but its okay people start with me but when i defend myself they come out smelling like a rose and i come looking like a villain. am sorry but i put up with enough shit in my real life ( excuse my french) to have to put up with people on the internet arguing with me because of having a different opinion. am not just going to allow people to say what they will to me without defending myself am sorry but that's not how it works with me. and if that's starting an argument well okay. i mean are we suppose to always agree all the time and not have different opinions on here? i mean that's not the real world . people don't always agree with each other and that doesn't mean that they are necessarily starting arguments. they just have a different point of view then others. although we may not like the way people express their opinions, but the point is that its their opinion. i mean if we all agreed with each other all the time the world would be a very dull boring place to live don't you think? and am not starting an argument either am just saying. but i do agree with what you have said about the ZANESSA thread. i think its very stupid for fans to argument over a matter that isn't any of their concern to begin with. ZAC and Vanessa's personal life is their business not ours. and the sooner they realize that the better i think its going to be around here.

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04-29-2012, 02:31 PM
Post: #154
RE: Rants.
(04-29-2012 12:46 AM)teamnoelftw. Wrote:  Oh, trust me, Miranda. It never is anymore.

I think this has to be said, regardless of what happens. If Zanessa hadn't broken up at all, I think the thread would be the peaceful thread it once was. But they went their separate ways and so should we. It's not even about Zanessa anymore, and I honestly do not recognize that thread.

And I think the whole forum needs more moderation and stricter rules than ever now. That's what made this whole place more peaceful, I think. There needs to be stricter rules and stricter moderators than what we have been seeing nowadays. I think this is partially why the forum isn't doing so well, and why we haven't seen a lot of members come in. They are scared off because of the constant fighting or they get involved and it makes things go 100% worse.

The whole forum has made a complete 180 from what it used to be and I'm tired of it. I think we should bring back the moderators and have them take control. Or better yet, allow some members to be official moderators again until permanent positions can be filled.

I haven't been on here long enough to remember the moderators, so I wouldn't be able to have any say about that. But I just think that thread has no place on this forum anymore.

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04-29-2012, 03:08 PM
Post: #155
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The current situation on the Zanessa thread is partly my fault I fear. I made a post in jest which 90% of the people on their got,because I talk to them on Twitter. But some people didn't and took it completely wrong. My original point was to show that people can have different opinions.

But whatever, that thread IS the joke it always has been. Even when Z & V were together, the very fact the thread existed was a contradiction of the forum rules, pretty much like you guys have already discussed.

I agree we do need moderators back, and that thread and a few others need to go. They are not healthy for this forum.

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04-29-2012, 03:24 PM
Post: #156
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I don't know the current situation there (tbh I really don't want to know). I'm relatively new to everyone else since I don't know about the moderators, so I don't know how that worked out.

What are the other problematic threads?

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05-01-2012, 01:26 AM (This post was last modified: 05-01-2012 01:38 AM by Stephanie.)
Post: #157
RE: Rants.
(04-28-2012 10:26 PM)mirandagirl Wrote:  
(04-28-2012 09:37 PM)teamnoelftw. Wrote:  
(04-28-2012 04:10 PM)mirandagirl Wrote:  Can we like get rid of the Zanessa thread? I feel it has no place on this forum and it breaks like half of the forum rules. I feel like this would be a lot more peaceful place if it wasn't here.

Seriously. It is not even up for debate anymore. It should've been gone the MOMENT Zanessa broke up so we can move on and be happy with whoever they now hook up with. It's not even a place where people can hope they get back together anymore.

What started as a fun and respectful place to be is now a idiotic fight fest. It's disgusting really.

Or better yet, ban the people who start the arguments in the first place. There IS an ignore option for users here, you know? God.

I don't even go on there, but I just have this feeling that nothing good is going on there.

(04-29-2012 12:46 AM)teamnoelftw. Wrote:  Oh, trust me, Miranda. It never is anymore.

I think this has to be said, regardless of what happens. If Zanessa hadn't broken up at all, I think the thread would be the peaceful thread it once was. But they went their separate ways and so should we. It's not even about Zanessa anymore, and I honestly do not recognize that thread.

And I think the whole forum needs more moderation and stricter rules than ever now. That's what made this whole place more peaceful, I think. There needs to be stricter rules and stricter moderators than what we have been seeing nowadays. I think this is partially why the forum isn't doing so well, and why we haven't seen a lot of members come in. They are scared off because of the constant fighting or they get involved and it makes things go 100% worse.

The whole forum has made a complete 180 from what it used to be and I'm tired of it. I think we should bring back the moderators and have them take control. Or better yet, allow some members to be official moderators again until permanent positions can be filled.

Both of you are correct. I was actually talking to someone on here about that the other day. Back in the day as we all know, Zanessa was actually a "swear" word. It would be bleeped out with stars and if it was said it was actually grounds for an infraction and possible banning. That's a bit extreme in my opinion but Zanessa was taboo. WHY has it changed? When they were not confirmed we couldn't talk about it....why now that they are broken up can anybody still discuss it. I don't even care to go into that thread because it's got the same dramatic people who used to get banned and cause problems yrs ago.

We need mods back. Problem is those who are chosen are usually the ones who stay in the shadows and don't cause problems. That's a great idea because it means the mods won't have bias opinions but what I personally seen from that was that a lot of the newer mods they had later on were out of touch with this forum's reality. They didn't know how to discipline a person about a certain topic because they don't get the topic. If we want decent mods we need someone who people will respect. Not like all the time but respect. I'm fully aware that doesn't apply to me seeing as I over the yrs took the painstaking time to fill out a great application .....twice....and never even knew what was happening till the finally mods were announced. I have no problem with that because I've never been a quiet person on this forum. I'm going to say how I feel but I do feel like I've matured a lot since coming on here in 06. But.... yes we do need mods cause Kathryn can't do this all on her own anymore. It's getting to be that the forum is running the place.

I also think that thread needs to be closed. NOT deleted because people did a lot of work in getting those posts but I think we would see who the true Zac fans were if Kathryn got rid of that thread by locking it. AND another thread wouldn't be opened. If it was that person should be warned and then banned if it got to that point. People obviously can't have normal discussions in anything Zanessa related so people have lost that right to post about them.

So what if people left....more people would join because it wouldn't be a huge zoo of mental midgets trying to fight with each other about a couple that has been over for what....a YEAR NOW? It's not like Zac and Vanessa got married, had a couple of kids and then just suddenly broke up. Even then who cares? People break up ....even God forbid a celebrity couple. Some people forget that Zac is human. He's got male parts....he probably scratches those male parts like any other guy out there. He just wants to make movies and gain fans. Why would somebody want to take that away from him by making him live in a world that doesn't even exist.

I actually said a few yrs back that when Zac and Vanessa broke up this entire place would fall apart. What happened? That exact thing. Sad that Kathryn built such a great place for a bunch of ungrateful children to come ruin.
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05-01-2012, 10:51 AM
Post: #158
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I agree.

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05-01-2012, 02:33 PM (This post was last modified: 05-01-2012 02:36 PM by lashay12.)
Post: #159
RE: Rants.
(05-01-2012 01:26 AM)Stephanie Wrote:  
(04-28-2012 10:26 PM)mirandagirl Wrote:  
(04-28-2012 09:37 PM)teamnoelftw. Wrote:  
(04-28-2012 04:10 PM)mirandagirl Wrote:  Can we like get rid of the Zanessa thread? I feel it has no place on this forum and it breaks like half of the forum rules. I feel like this would be a lot more peaceful place if it wasn't here.

Seriously. It is not even up for debate anymore. It should've been gone the MOMENT Zanessa broke up so we can move on and be happy with whoever they now hook up with. It's not even a place where people can hope they get back together anymore.

What started as a fun and respectful place to be is now a idiotic fight fest. It's disgusting really.

Or better yet, ban the people who start the arguments in the first place. There IS an ignore option for users here, you know? God.

I don't even go on there, but I just have this feeling that nothing good is going on there.

(04-29-2012 12:46 AM)teamnoelftw. Wrote:  Oh, trust me, Miranda. It never is anymore.

I think this has to be said, regardless of what happens. If Zanessa hadn't broken up at all, I think the thread would be the peaceful thread it once was. But they went their separate ways and so should we. It's not even about Zanessa anymore, and I honestly do not recognize that thread.

And I think the whole forum needs more moderation and stricter rules than ever now. That's what made this whole place more peaceful, I think. There needs to be stricter rules and stricter moderators than what we have been seeing nowadays. I think this is partially why the forum isn't doing so well, and why we haven't seen a lot of members come in. They are scared off because of the constant fighting or they get involved and it makes things go 100% worse.

The whole forum has made a complete 180 from what it used to be and I'm tired of it. I think we should bring back the moderators and have them take control. Or better yet, allow some members to be official moderators again until permanent positions can be filled.

Both of you are correct. I was actually talking to someone on here about that the other day. Back in the day as we all know, Zanessa was actually a "swear" word. It would be bleeped out with stars and if it was said it was actually grounds for an infraction and possible banning. That's a bit extreme in my opinion but Zanessa was taboo. WHY has it changed? When they were not confirmed we couldn't talk about it....why now that they are broken up can anybody still discuss it. I don't even care to go into that thread because it's got the same dramatic people who used to get banned and cause problems yrs ago.

We need mods back. Problem is those who are chosen are usually the ones who stay in the shadows and don't cause problems. That's a great idea because it means the mods won't have bias opinions but what I personally seen from that was that a lot of the newer mods they had later on were out of touch with this forum's reality. They didn't know how to discipline a person about a certain topic because they don't get the topic. If we want decent mods we need someone who people will respect. Not like all the time but respect. I'm fully aware that doesn't apply to me seeing as I over the yrs took the painstaking time to fill out a great application .....twice....and never even knew what was happening till the finally mods were announced. I have no problem with that because I've never been a quiet person on this forum. I'm going to say how I feel but I do feel like I've matured a lot since coming on here in 06. But.... yes we do need mods cause Kathryn can't do this all on her own anymore. It's getting to be that the forum is running the place.

I also think that thread needs to be closed. NOT deleted because people did a lot of work in getting those posts but I think we would see who the true Zac fans were if Kathryn got rid of that thread by locking it. AND another thread wouldn't be opened. If it was that person should be warned and then banned if it got to that point. People obviously can't have normal discussions in anything Zanessa related so people have lost that right to post about them.

So what if people left....more people would join because it wouldn't be a huge zoo of mental midgets trying to fight with each other about a couple that has been over for what....a YEAR NOW? It's not like Zac and Vanessa got married, had a couple of kids and then just suddenly broke up. Even then who cares? People break up ....even God forbid a celebrity couple. Some people forget that Zac is human. He's got male parts....he probably scratches those male parts like any other guy out there. He just wants to make movies and gain fans. Why would somebody want to take that away from him by making him live in a world that doesn't even exist.

I actually said a few yrs back that when Zac and Vanessa broke up this entire place would fall apart. What happened? That exact thing. Sad that Kathryn built such a great place for a bunch of ungrateful children to come ruin.

i know we had our disagreements in the past but for once i agree with all you said.Big Grin

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05-02-2012, 12:34 AM
Post: #160
RE: Rants.
(05-01-2012 02:33 PM)lashay12 Wrote:  
(05-01-2012 01:26 AM)Stephanie Wrote:  
(04-28-2012 10:26 PM)mirandagirl Wrote:  
(04-28-2012 09:37 PM)teamnoelftw. Wrote:  
(04-28-2012 04:10 PM)mirandagirl Wrote:  Can we like get rid of the Zanessa thread? I feel it has no place on this forum and it breaks like half of the forum rules. I feel like this would be a lot more peaceful place if it wasn't here.

Seriously. It is not even up for debate anymore. It should've been gone the MOMENT Zanessa broke up so we can move on and be happy with whoever they now hook up with. It's not even a place where people can hope they get back together anymore.

What started as a fun and respectful place to be is now a idiotic fight fest. It's disgusting really.

Or better yet, ban the people who start the arguments in the first place. There IS an ignore option for users here, you know? God.

I don't even go on there, but I just have this feeling that nothing good is going on there.

(04-29-2012 12:46 AM)teamnoelftw. Wrote:  Oh, trust me, Miranda. It never is anymore.

I think this has to be said, regardless of what happens. If Zanessa hadn't broken up at all, I think the thread would be the peaceful thread it once was. But they went their separate ways and so should we. It's not even about Zanessa anymore, and I honestly do not recognize that thread.

And I think the whole forum needs more moderation and stricter rules than ever now. That's what made this whole place more peaceful, I think. There needs to be stricter rules and stricter moderators than what we have been seeing nowadays. I think this is partially why the forum isn't doing so well, and why we haven't seen a lot of members come in. They are scared off because of the constant fighting or they get involved and it makes things go 100% worse.

The whole forum has made a complete 180 from what it used to be and I'm tired of it. I think we should bring back the moderators and have them take control. Or better yet, allow some members to be official moderators again until permanent positions can be filled.

Both of you are correct. I was actually talking to someone on here about that the other day. Back in the day as we all know, Zanessa was actually a "swear" word. It would be bleeped out with stars and if it was said it was actually grounds for an infraction and possible banning. That's a bit extreme in my opinion but Zanessa was taboo. WHY has it changed? When they were not confirmed we couldn't talk about it....why now that they are broken up can anybody still discuss it. I don't even care to go into that thread because it's got the same dramatic people who used to get banned and cause problems yrs ago.

We need mods back. Problem is those who are chosen are usually the ones who stay in the shadows and don't cause problems. That's a great idea because it means the mods won't have bias opinions but what I personally seen from that was that a lot of the newer mods they had later on were out of touch with this forum's reality. They didn't know how to discipline a person about a certain topic because they don't get the topic. If we want decent mods we need someone who people will respect. Not like all the time but respect. I'm fully aware that doesn't apply to me seeing as I over the yrs took the painstaking time to fill out a great application .....twice....and never even knew what was happening till the finally mods were announced. I have no problem with that because I've never been a quiet person on this forum. I'm going to say how I feel but I do feel like I've matured a lot since coming on here in 06. But.... yes we do need mods cause Kathryn can't do this all on her own anymore. It's getting to be that the forum is running the place.

I also think that thread needs to be closed. NOT deleted because people did a lot of work in getting those posts but I think we would see who the true Zac fans were if Kathryn got rid of that thread by locking it. AND another thread wouldn't be opened. If it was that person should be warned and then banned if it got to that point. People obviously can't have normal discussions in anything Zanessa related so people have lost that right to post about them.

So what if people left....more people would join because it wouldn't be a huge zoo of mental midgets trying to fight with each other about a couple that has been over for what....a YEAR NOW? It's not like Zac and Vanessa got married, had a couple of kids and then just suddenly broke up. Even then who cares? People break up ....even God forbid a celebrity couple. Some people forget that Zac is human. He's got male parts....he probably scratches those male parts like any other guy out there. He just wants to make movies and gain fans. Why would somebody want to take that away from him by making him live in a world that doesn't even exist.

I actually said a few yrs back that when Zac and Vanessa broke up this entire place would fall apart. What happened? That exact thing. Sad that Kathryn built such a great place for a bunch of ungrateful children to come ruin.

i know we had our disagreements in the past but for once i agree with all you said.Big Grin

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