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I LOVE YOU ZAC
02-18-2012, 10:41 AM (This post was last modified: 02-18-2012 10:45 AM by d. b. wilyumz.)
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(02-17-2012 07:56 PM)Fruitfly Wrote:  I got to thinking about this last night...from an anthropological perspective, you're right. Freud would agree with you. There's an atavistic instinct in males from the hunter / gatherer days that realizes the alpha male gets to mate with all the babes and the beta males just hang about and hope. I don't want to reduce it to that because clearly there's a competitive edge, a matter of identification and non-identification (this goes back to Hegel), and jealousy, which are more products of Jungian psychology than anthropology and Freud's subconscious. So yes, but more. (-;

There is no one answer; clearly there are layers. All other males are rivals by definition, but there is also a strong instinct for male bonding and cooperation, so some other males will be seen as potential allies, thus the identification with those of similar type. "Alpha male" isn't quite right for Zac, because they are often older and possess authority by their personalities, alliances, and general acceptance as dominant until they are successfully challenged and overthrown. But he is more threatening to rivals of the same age because he already possesses some Alpha attributes -- social prestige, authority (he was one of Time Magazine's 100 Most Influential a couple of years ago), power (celebrity plus wealth, a form of power unique to humans in the primate order). All this creates heightened envy and jealousy among males in his age cohort. But I think it is his blatant sex appeal to nubile females that arouses the intense hostility among some rival males.

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Oh, by the way, you mentioned that you thought he was part Jewish. As far as I can tell, he has a paternal Jewish grandfather, with grandmother of German descent. I think his mom's side is English/Scotch. So yes, totally north European extraction.
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I LOVE YOU ZAC - elle1234 - 08-21-2011, 07:12 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - Fearless - 08-22-2011, 06:22 AM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - Zacefronitis - 08-22-2011, 07:17 AM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - Fearless - 08-22-2011, 07:21 AM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - michelle. - 08-22-2011, 08:20 AM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - KateZE - 08-22-2011, 04:17 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - mirandagirl - 08-22-2011, 05:22 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - elle1234 - 08-24-2011, 02:02 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - MumOfMerlin - 08-24-2011, 04:02 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - efronftw_ - 08-24-2011, 04:05 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - Fearless - 08-25-2011, 08:39 AM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - Zacefronitis - 08-25-2011, 08:50 AM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - elle1234 - 08-25-2011, 02:39 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - Fearless - 08-26-2011, 05:15 AM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - astridefron - 08-29-2011, 11:12 AM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - d. b. wilyumz - 08-29-2011, 12:38 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - astridefron - 09-05-2011, 12:29 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - d. b. wilyumz - 09-06-2011, 09:30 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - elle1234 - 09-01-2011, 01:45 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - Fearless - 09-06-2011, 06:41 AM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - Nina32 - 09-06-2011, 04:18 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - d. b. wilyumz - 09-07-2011, 10:44 AM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - Nina32 - 09-07-2011, 10:46 AM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - d. b. wilyumz - 09-11-2011, 08:15 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - elle1234 - 09-07-2011, 01:08 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - elle1234 - 09-07-2011, 02:12 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - elle1234 - 09-11-2011, 05:43 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - Nina32 - 09-13-2011, 09:49 AM
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RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - Fearless - 09-19-2011, 05:56 AM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - Fearless - 09-20-2011, 06:59 AM
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RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - mirandagirl - 12-11-2011, 05:46 PM
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RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - elle1234 - 01-27-2012, 01:41 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - ZacAttack2290 - 01-27-2012, 08:03 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - SLE - 02-03-2012, 01:58 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - elle1234 - 02-03-2012, 07:21 PM
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RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - Zacefronitis - 02-21-2012, 04:15 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - nylonsuperstar - 02-21-2012, 05:47 PM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - Fruitfly - 02-22-2012, 07:45 AM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - d. b. wilyumz - 02-22-2012, 11:11 AM
RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - Fruitfly - 02-22-2012, 01:36 PM
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RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - ZacAttack2290 - 02-22-2012, 02:26 PM
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RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - Firefly - 05-31-2012, 12:40 AM
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RE: I LOVE YOU ZAC - ZacAttack2290 - 06-06-2012, 05:09 PM
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