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RE: Heartland - d. b. wilyumz - 12-24-2011 05:11 PM

(12-23-2011 10:39 PM)Firefly Wrote:  no trailer or release date yet Sad

Expect some film-festival action first, director Bahrani is big on that circuit -- Cannes, Venice, Berlin, Toronto. He was pitching this movie last spring at Cannes.


RE: Heartland - mirandagirl - 12-24-2011 05:14 PM

(12-24-2011 05:11 PM)d. b. wilyumz Wrote:  
(12-23-2011 10:39 PM)Firefly Wrote:  no trailer or release date yet Sad

Expect some film-festival action first, director Bahrani is big on that circuit -- Cannes, Venice, Berlin, Toronto. He was pitching this movie last spring at Cannes.

Question: If movies take the film festival route, does that mean we still get to eventually see the movie on DVD later? Or no?


RE: Heartland - d. b. wilyumz - 12-25-2011 11:31 AM

(12-24-2011 05:14 PM)mirandagirl Wrote:  Question: If movies take the film festival route, does that mean we still get to eventually see the movie on DVD later? Or no?

Totally separate. A movie gets put on the film festival circuit for two reasons, to win critical attention and, not unrelated, to find distributors. Cannes is a leading festival for behind-the-scenes deal making. Distributors send reps to the major festivals, and if they see something they like (that they think they can make some money distributing), they make a bid. When they win the distribution rights for a movie (often a regional thing, U.S. market, Australia, Europe, etc.) they then book it into theaters and plan a release date, marketing campaign, and so forth. This is why M&OW was shown at the Toronto Film Festival; it got favorable attention but, unfortunately, no distribution deal.

The DVD release is usually a separate affair. If it's a studio movie, DVD release is part of the total plan. If it's an indie, then the producers will have to arrange a deal for manufacturing and marketing. The M&OW DVD was marketed by Warner Brothers (why am I not surpised?). If CineManx hadn't arranged its own selective theater release, M&OW would have gone "straight to DVD," which a lot of indie films do when they can't find a theater distributor.

So we will eventually see The Untitled Bahrani Project on DVD (all of his earlier films are out on DVD). If it doesn't get a theatrical distributor, that and selling it to the cable movie channels is the only way the movie can earn back some of its cost.


RE: Heartland - mirandagirl - 12-25-2011 12:44 PM

Okay, that's the only thing I was worried about. As long as eventually I will be able to see it, then I'm happy. Be it in theaters or on DVD. I just didn't know how all of that worked.


RE: Heartland - Firefly - 01-01-2012 12:44 AM

so if it's going to be a film festival movie
will it not come out in theaters


RE: Heartland - d. b. wilyumz - 01-01-2012 11:10 AM

(01-01-2012 12:44 AM)Firefly Wrote:  so if it's going to be a film festival movie
will it not come out in theaters

See my lengthy explanation above, post #276. No matter what else happens, The Untitled Bahrani Project will come out on DVD. The people who invested in this movie want to get some of their money back, and DVD is the last chance to get any revenue out of a movie. ALL movies are released as DVDs.


RE: Heartland - mirandagirl - 01-02-2012 01:52 PM

That's all I want. As long as I have a chance to see this movie in some way, then I'm good.


RE: Heartland - elle1234 - 01-04-2012 05:26 PM

All that hard work for a movie that may not make it to the theaters,that seems odd to me.


RE: Heartland - Firefly - 01-07-2012 01:12 AM

yeah, how will they make any money?


RE: Heartland - d. b. wilyumz - 01-07-2012 04:04 PM

(01-04-2012 05:26 PM)elle1234 Wrote:  All that hard work for a movie that may not make it to the theaters,that seems odd to me.

That's the sad story of many independently-produced movies. They are made in the hope of finding a good distributor, and that doesn't always happen. A studio-produced movie has guaranteed distribution because each of the major studios has its own distribution service. That's also why projects at Zac's production company are so slow to get going. Since a studio like Warner Brothers has to distribute it's movies to 2,500-3,500 theaters, they are very cautious about giving the green light to projects because the distribution and marketing costs are are enormous. So there's a lot of dithering and re-writes, until the studio is convinced that a project has a good chance of being profitable.
(01-07-2012 01:12 AM)Firefly Wrote:  yeah, how will they make any money?

Theatrical distribution is just one of the ways movies earn money. With or without theatrical distribution, movies are then sold to the cable movie channels, then they are released on DVD. Visit your nearest Redbox DVD vending machine; quite a few of the movies on display are indie productions that didn't get wide release in theaters. (And there seem to be two DVD release channels; I've noticed that DVDs for rental don't have the bonus materials that you find on the retail-sale DVDs, so movie sales to Blockbuster, Redbox, and other rental services are separate from the DVD sales to the public.)