zac's behavior changed?

[TrueLove]

okay so heres the thing, this is personally my own opinion and i understand other people will most definatly disagree with me. To me i liked it better when zac didn't curse in his interviews. I mean yes i understand he's 21 he practically an adult, and he is able to do those things but for some reason i liked when he was more clean in his interviews. yea i understand ***, and ****, i think its hot when he says it but not the f word and stuff. I guess its just that im still used to him as a clean disney type boy. I know i sound a little immature but its just different for me to see him curse a lot now. i think its a little turn off to me. does anyone agree? your more than welcome to post your opinions.

[ashleytisdale101]

I agree, especially lately he has acted different, talks different, etc.
I mean, yeah he's an adult now and can drink and stuff, but Im talking personally he doesn't seem happy or just smiley like he used to. It's one thing to get older and grow up a little, but he has completely changed. There is almost nothing the same personally about him.

[la belle vie.]

in that one GQ interview released yesterday,
every 2 words he said fuuuuuck. i don't care if he says it,
it just was kinda weird how he said it so much.

[em1234]

i was surprised but i dont have a problem with it

[Rach]

i thought the same thing when i reading the GQ interview, he swore loads in that!
Don't get more wrong i don't mind it when people swear but i think it needs to be toned down abit.

[LaurenLovesZac]

he doesnt talk differently. sure he swear more frequently in interviews, but he only didnt before cause of disney, and we all know that. he hasnt chnaged.

still adore him, and i find it hot when he curses <33

[JDO]

umm idk.
men do swear ALOT.
and he could've always been like this you know.
we just didnt know cause he had to keep his disney image.
but like take my dad for example, at home or family stuff anytime im there hardly swears AT ALL.
only if he hurt himself.
but when he's with his mates ALWAYS says the f word.
idk wy, think its a man thing.
also ever thought the person who wrote the article could of made some stuff up?

[complicated.]

i find him a lot more funnier in some interviews than when he was younger.
but i don't like the swearing.

[TrueLove]

i thought the same thing when i reading the GQ interview, he swore loads in that!
Don't get more wrong i don't mind it when people swear but i think it needs to be toned down abit.

i feel the same way, its not that i have a problem its just different,
& most def, he doesnt look all happy like he used to.
i was watching the david letterman show and he had the leave me alone type look like
he was annoyed. But maybe he was just tired. lol

[Gabster14]

i think its normal
celeb cussed alot too
in interviews

[violethill]

i just think it's kinda too bold of him. he may not have a contract with disney anymore, but i think he should know that speaking like that doesn't make him look older or cooler. if anything, i'm disappointed about how harsh his responses were. he has answered many of the same questions without using that language, why couldn't he just be redundant?

i got really upset actually, maybe if he said it once or twice it wouldn't have bothered me in the least, but every response. i found it really rude.

[beeee.]

this is probably the REAL Zac Efron.
we just do see it (:
hes still a really sweet guy<3

i do agree that he could of took it down a lvl a bit in the interview.
but i find it hawtt when he swears. lmfao.

[betweenthelines.]

Nah, I just think it makes him sounds more real, like hes being himself and I kinda like that he's not holding back. And i mean I go to school with 16 year olds who curse much more than that.

[cblodg]

I can see where many of you are coming from. Yes, the swearing was a bit much and yes it is a guy thing. We swear alot when we're around our friends. I used to say that word alot, but I've toned it down because you find out real quick that it's really not cool to use it. It's entirely possible that Zac felt comfortable enough with the interviewer to let these fly.

I don't think he has changed at all. He is still as charming as ever when in the public eye. He will tone down the swearing because he'll see the older people around him start commenting on it. He's just now an adult, so he's trying to act like one a little too much at times. The ability to use adult language also means you have the choice not to. If he was comfortable with the person, and more than likely the interviewer was swearing too to put him at ease, of course he'd feel free to join in.

Zac hasn't changed to the extent some seem to think. You're just not used to it.

[BBV.]

i don't really mind.
i mean, he's a guy. it's expected.
plus, it's really hot. =D

[across the universe.]

i hated the gq interview. his swearing was unprofessional & immature.
idc if he swears. i do too, but behind closed doors. this is his job. seriously? i think he's trying way too hard, idk. it made me lose a bit of respect. it was soooo unnecessary.

not bashing him, i love zac.

[moveinreverse.]

phst, everyone gets a little rough around the edges when they get older.
it's perfectly normal.
i'm diggin' it (:

[beeee.]

im getting used to itt.

haha.

[zero gravity.]

yeah, i agree with what you're saying.
i feel pretty much the same way.
i mean, i know that he's older now,
but that doesn't make swearing seem
any more mature. it's like he's trying too hard
to act grown up. he seemed so much more
humble right after the first hsm. now it's like
he knows he's popular, and hot, ect.. so he acts
more conceited in interviews and stuff.

[betweenthelines.]

People are making it seem that he just started swearing right out the blue to seem older, but hes probably been talking like that for years now but its just the first time we've really seen it in an interview.

[across the universe.]

his swearing was incredibly unprofessional.

[aasshhlleeyy.]

i agree with everyone here, all of a sudden he is grown up
hes still the same, but hes also different
hes probably sick of people saying how perfect he is for disney
and wants to show them hes more and isnt perfect
and yeh he used to seem more happier
but i still luvv him :) and always will

[moveinreverse.]

his swearing was incredibly badâss and sexy.

[betweenthelines.]

Hey he is his own person. If he wants to swear... more power to him.

[LiVeInLoVe]

hes a normally guy not chained to disney and hes smart. he knows when he can curse and when he shouldn't. he wouldn't throw the f bomb all over the place on the today show, but GQ is a mens magazine and thats relatively normal for the people who are going to be reading it.

[squints]

I used to think I was cool in middle school cursing every other word then I grew the hell up.
I don't care if people curse, but if you are saying fuuck this and fuuck that every sentence it's annoying and classless and that goes for anyone.
Especially zac this is an interview and he sounds so unprofessional.

[toothpick]

the swearing is so uncool,
like he tries way too hard
to make people think he has
grown up. i agree with words
of love. its unprofessional & immature.

[TrueLove]

we all can agreee we still love zac if he swares or not,
but i guess many of are not used to hear zac cussing like that
i think he should tone it down a bit.
and i think he's changed in a sense that he's maturing.
still its a little weird for some of us.

[violethill]

his swearing was incredibly unprofessional.

word up. totally uncalled for...i don't care if that was johnny depp or brad pitt...i'd have the same reaction.

[MRSGLAMBERT.]

i hated the gq interview. his swearing was unprofessional & immature.
idc if he swears. i do too, but behind closed doors. this is his job. seriously? i think he's trying way too hard, idk. it made me lose a bit of respect. it was soooo unnecessary.

not bashing him, i love zac.

hm, ia.
nothing is wrong with swearing but when
you're doing it every two seconds in an
interview that fans are obviously going
to watch, i wouldn't want them to hear
me swear that much. but it's his life so..

[conspiracyagainstme_]

“I wasn’t programmed by Disney,” Efron says
I'm 14 and none of his new attitude bothers me, he's 21, HSM is over, it's his life. He can do what he wants, he's a smart guy.

[luciddreams]

is this thread specifically talking about the gq interview? if there are more that are being referred to, can someone please post them?


i just read the gq interview [i havent read or watched a zac interview in a long time, i forgot how awesome it is!], and i didnt think it was bad or inappropriate at all. its for a men's magazine. if it somewhere else, like on a tv show where young kids are bound to see it, then it would be unprofessional. he is always very polite and composed when he needs to be, so i have no problem with him letting lose for an interview which was meant to be read by guys.

[laurenxashlee]

i love zac, but the cursing and swearing is so not cool and unprofessional. i used to think cursing in every sentence was cool but it just makes you look like white trash. its so stupid. and he's doing it in an interview which is stupid bc people look up to him and ur setting a bad example

[efronator.]

i guess it is his decision to swear or not.
i mean, he is an adult and is making choices pretty much
everyday on what scripts he wants to take and stuff, so i think
he knows what's right from wrong. i don't really mind that zac cusses,
but yes, he does it an awful lot now. it's extremely hot when he does it,
so i'm just goign with what zac does, and if he wants to swear, i guess we'll
let him be the 21 year old man he is.

[zeinaaa.]

his swearing was incredibly badâss and sexy.
touche. It's such a turn on <3

Hey he is his own person. If he wants to swear... more power to him.
Took the words right out of my mouth (:

[StrawberryDelights]

seriously he's not swearing THAT much...

[muffin_girl.]

i agree, i was just talking about it today. it's a deffinatly turn off.
but he can do whatever he wants.

[always_a_wildcat]

i think a little cursing is fine but the gq interview was a little much. i know hes growing up but i guess i still think of him as a disney star so im just not used to it yet

[lost in the stereo.]

hmm, i tihnk his starting to realise
that everyone knows him as a clean preppy boy.
now he's trying to prove them wrong.
i dont like it, but i love him.

[lost in the stereo.]

i wanna see the GQ interview
anyone got the link (:

[cblodg]

i wanna see the GQ interview
anyone got the link (:

Here you go:

http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_8677 (http://men.style.com/gq/features/lan...d=content_8677)

I gotta ask, how did you all feel when you heard him say "Kiss my ***" in Hairspray? I know I was shocked at first thinking "did he really just say that?" The shock wore off though.

[cblodg]

I'd like to just make another comment on this GQ article, if you'll allow me.

The article was written for GQ, which is a men's magazine. It wasn't written for young girls or for women really. So you really need to put the context of what magazine the article is in and realize it's target audience. I'm sorry, but that's the History major in me; you cannot take things out of their context.

There isn't THAT much non-chalant swearing throughout. He isn't saying F-this or F-that every other word as some people seem to think he is. He's using the F-bomb when frustrated, which is what most guys do. This is a very good interview that shows some real insight into Zac and his life as it is right now.

I know that not everybody can take a step back and look at something from a different perspective, or take in the context; but you have to do these things to realise where he is coming from. I'm sorry for the long and multiple posts, but there needs to be some perspective here.

[toothpick]

^swearing and talking dirtay
or something like that is totally
okay because its for the character.
so i wasn't shock,

[muffin_girl.]

Here you go:

http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_8677

I gotta ask, how did you all feel when you heard him say "Kiss my ***" in Hairspray? I know I was shocked at first thinking "did he really just say that?" The shock wore off though.

when did he say that?

[lost in the stereo.]

thanks for the link.
whoa zac, thats erm yh.

he was checking out a girl?!
wow,
and that girl was so lucky = O

[cblodg]

when did he say that?

In Hairspray when Amber frames Tracy for drawing a picture of their history teacher with breasts. Link stands up and the teacher says; "Oh, and Mr. Larkin. Would you be so kind as to tell us Patrick Henry's imortal words?"

Link: "Kiss my @ss?"

Which got Link sent to detention with Tracy.

[KuuipoGirl_xo]

I thought it was hot at first when he swore lol, but now its like calm down boy! He's swearing as every other word lol. No need really haha.

[Its.time.to.fly]

normally it doesnt bug me, but the GQ interview really bugged me i felt like he was playing up because its a guys magasine and he should be 'manly'

[beeee.]

hes a guy.
thats what guys do.
probably the real zac efron
like ive said before
its totally HAWTT

[Zina Hudgens]

i was surprised but i dont have a problem with it

agreed

[Zecxy Love]

^thts wht i was thinking about the manly thing but really maybe this is who he really is u no and the letterman interview i got this vibe tht it was extremely awkward but i thought letterman was making it awkward

[emmy]

i don't mind too much, i actually do find it hot, haha. but i did think in the GQ interview he could've toned it down a little, i mean i don't see the point in swearing with every other word you say, and it just came across that he was doing that. maybe the way the interview was written made it seem like that more, i don't know
but it doesn't bother me, to be honest

[NessaDream]

i just think it's kinda too bold of him. he may not have a contract with disney anymore, but i think he should know that speaking like that doesn't make him look older or cooler. if anything, i'm disappointed about how harsh his responses were. he has answered many of the same questions without using that language, why couldn't he just be redundant?

i got really upset actually, maybe if he said it once or twice it wouldn't have bothered me in the least, but every response. i found it really rude.

DITTO .. i'm soo agree with u ...

he seams not zac .. he acts soo fake ,,, i didn't like GQ interview .. at alll

[rozettastone]

I don't think cussing is hot at all. I can imagine trying to have a conversation with someone who curses after every other word. It would be kind of annoying. I don't care how hot you are.

[TrueLove]

I thought it was hot at first when he swore lol, but now its like calm down boy! He's swearing as every other word lol. No need really haha.

agreed. i mean yea you can curse im not saying he should stop completley, im just saying that recently in his interviews he has been using quite a few curse words. And yes i understand that GQ is a mag. for guys, and he is trying to show a mature side to him but he has to realize that hsm hasnt died down yet there are still fans outt here who will look up to him still and still read his interviews weather its for a guys mag or not. He is indeed a smart guy but just has to chill out with his words.

[cblodg]

^thts wht i was thinking about the manly thing but really maybe this is who he really is u no and the letterman interview i got this vibe tht it was extremely awkward but i thought letterman was making it awkward

I picked up that vibe too with Letterman. That was the first time he was on the show so Zac didn't really seem at all comfortable and when Letterman started to poke fun at his "it's a clip from the movie," you could see Zac getting a little flustered.

Okay, now back to the GQ article. Ladies, he did not swear after every word or every other word no matter how much some of you want to make it look like he did. There was one or two sections where he was frustrated and used the F-bomb more than he probably should have.

Again, this article is not intended for girls, young ladies or women. It's a men's magazine. I challenge you to give the article to one of your male friends and have them read it. don't preface it with any background just have them read it. Then ask them if they had a problem with the swearing in it. I think you'll find they won't because they are the target audience. Guys swear alot more than girls do.

I think some of you really need to look at it's context. This article was not intended for you. Zac was showing other men that he's just one of the guys. I'm a guy. Was the swearing a bit much? Maybe, but I wasn't offended by it. But again, I'm the target audience.

[underneaththissmile.]

“I wasn’t programmed by Disney,” Efron says
I'm 14 and none of his new attitude bothers me, he's 21, HSM is over, it's his life. He can do what he wants, he's a smart guy.
im 14 as well
and i pretty much trust him,
he's very smart and he know what he wants.

[AFRICA]

It's all because he wants to be edgy. Ever since he said he wanted to be considered a serious actor he did a complete 180 taking racy photos, cussing all the time. I personally think it's going to hurt him in the long run. If he continues people are going to be ore turned off by it. Zac's not being himself, at all.


I picked up that vibe too with Letterman. That was the first time he was on the show so Zac didn't really seem at all comfortable and when Letterman started to poke fun at his "it's a clip from the movie," you could see Zac getting a little flustered.

Okay, now back to the GQ article. Ladies, he did not swear after every word or every other word no matter how much some of you want to make it look like he did. There was one or two sections where he was frustrated and used the F-bomb more than he probably should have.

Again, this article is not intended for girls, young ladies or women. It's a men's magazine. I challenge you to give the article to one of your male friends and have them read it. don't preface it with any background just have them read it. Then ask them if they had a problem with the swearing in it. I think you'll find they won't because they are the target audience. Guys swear alot more than girls do.

I think some of you really need to look at it's context. This article was not intended for you. Zac was showing other men that he's just one of the guys. I'm a guy. Was the swearing a bit much? Maybe, but I wasn't offended by it. But again, I'm the target audience.Men may be GQ's intended audience, but do you really think they hired him for it because they thought "so many guys love him" no, they do it for the girls. Zac sells, that's the bottom line.


You guys can try to justify his actions, but none of this happened until he announced that he wanted to be "a real actor". I think it frustrates him when people still see him as Disney so he tries even harder. Which comes off a little desperate.

[mamaseeta]

being a zac fan over 40 i think the article was awesome. he swore alot but come on he maybe a celebrity but he's still human and we all swear and besides he gives good interviews very mature when he talks not like v where shes always giggly. he could say the f word the whole interview and i'd still think he's great.

[Baby _ Jx3]

its normal for any celeb to swear, zac's 21, what do you expect?
he's done with HSM and is moving on with his life, not trying to sound "cool"
he is who he is, bottom line.

[whoaitsnicole]

he wants to lose his disney image
but he's trying too hard now
zac has changed

[AFRICA]

I think some of you are over analyzing it when we say "he has changed". We know it's normal for a 21 year old to cuss. But the Zac we know, isn't like that, and has never been like that. Is it a crime for us to think he's changed? We're not necessarily saying it's a bad thing. Some of us just think he's trying to hard. Next thing you know he's not going to want anything to do with his teen fans because he wants to be serious and cool.

[betweenthelines.]

People are reading waaay too much into this. He is NOT swearing to seem cool, mature, or lose his disney image. He just swore when the interviewer brought up topics that he was passionate about and got him mad. No big deal.

[LEDGER.]

People need to realize that Zac isn't that cute 17 year old boy that was all Disney and never cursed. He's a 21 year old guy, that is old enough to drink, smoke, pole dance...on me...he can do whatever he pleases. He's not going to please everyone obviously, but I love the interviews where he cusses, he has a sailors mouth. He cusses a lot, and people just have to accept it, because he's being himself. He's being himself, and he's not holding back...and isn't that what everyone wanted?

[K3ZG]

Zac's 21 now
He can do what usual 21 year old do
It's his life and no matter what we do,
We can't change how much he curses
At least he knows when to curse or not

[AFRICA]

How many times are people going to say "he's 21 he can do what he wants" we are perfectly aware of that. Is that all you got?

[Booyah]

I don't think he has changed, but that he had to pretend to be something he wasn't cause he was with disney..
personally I totally dig the cursing *freak*

8)

[across the universe.]

by the way, kinda off topic but the 'too skinny' comment was so rude.
he sounded like an a.s.s.

& the 'you're beautiful, olivia' part kinda bothered me because even though
i really don't like vanessa i feel like he makes her look stupid.
flirting with other girls in front of a reporter is kinda wrong when you are in a public relationship but whateverrr. just my opinion.

love u zac.

[betweenthelines.]

^
The girl was like 12. I don't think he was coming on to her.

[across the universe.]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ohhh then neverminddd

sorry zac. (:

[annaa.]

^
The girl was like 12. I don't think he was coming on to her.

how do you know she was 12?
im really just wondering.
did it say that in there?

[betweenthelines.]

The lady who runs the coffee cart brings a blond, very poised preteen girl in a white dress across the patio for an autograph.
“You are beautiful,” Efron says to the girl. “What’s your name?”
“Olivia,” says Olivia.
“Nice to meet you,” Efron says.


It doesn't give her exact age but you get the impression that shes young

[you suck at life.]

bahaaaaa ive been waiting for zac
to go bad for so longgggggggg

[mandyjane]

maybe he hasnt changed
maybe he is finally being himself
it's a bit of swearing, who cares?

[em1234]

maybe he hasnt changed
maybe he is finally being himself
it's a bit of swearing, who cares?

agree

[TheWayYouMakeMeFeel]

yeah i agree too hes 21 hes an adult.
he hasnt changed at all he is just being himself this time
this is just a side of zac we didn't see before.

all the swearing in the article cracked me up.

[Zacefronitis]

I can see where many of you are coming from. Yes, the swearing was a bit much and yes it is a guy thing. We swear alot when we're around our friends. I used to say that word alot, but I've toned it down because you find out real quick that it's really not cool to use it. It's entirely possible that Zac felt comfortable enough with the interviewer to let these fly.

I don't think he has changed at all. He is still as charming as ever when in the public eye. He will tone down the swearing because he'll see the older people around him start commenting on it. He's just now an adult, so he's trying to act like one a little too much at times. The ability to use adult language also means you have the choice not to. If he was comfortable with the person, and more than likely the interviewer was swearing too to put him at ease, of course he'd feel free to join in.

Zac hasn't changed to the extent some seem to think. You're just not used to it.

I agree, totally a guy thing and he knows how to censor himself so either he was aware it's a lads mage and he was being 'laddy' or the interviewer was talking in the same manner therefore relaxing him to do the same.
I was a little surprised by the amount of swearing but only because we are not used to it.
Like you say, it doesn't change him as a person. It's nice to see another side of Zac.

[mechanicaldummy.]

he's growing up. you can't change that. learn to live with it.

[InnocentlyClumsy]

I didn't know he said the F word in an interview?
Wow oh well I guess idk it's wrong but I kinda like how he's not being a priss or something.
He's a typical guy and he's probably tired of the HSM crap and wants to do his own thing.
He'll come back around I mean John Travolta my mom told me went through a stage where he was an *** but he's ok now and a greatful guy. Zac isn't any different and to be honest, I know what u are all saying, but it's time he gets some fans around his own age.
None of these 8 year olds and 40 year old cougars.
Plus....lets be honest here and people get angry whatever, but Zac is dating Vanessa.
She swears and doesn't care what people think, plus she's COMPLETELY changed over the years.
He's bound to be influenced by his V gf.

[across the universe.]

I didn't know he said the F word in an interview?
Wow oh well I guess idk it's wrong but I kinda like how he's not being a priss or something.
He's a typical guy and he's probably tired of the HSM crap and wants to do his own thing.
He'll come back around I mean John Travolta my mom told me went through a stage where he was an *** but he's ok now and a greatful guy. Zac isn't any different and to be honest, I know what u are all saying, but it's time he gets some fans around his own age.
None of these 8 year olds and 40 year old cougars.
Plus....lets be honest here and people get angry whatever, but Zac is dating Vanessa.
She swears and doesn't care what people think, plus she's COMPLETELY changed over the years.
He's bound to be influenced by his V gf.
yeah but vanessa doesn't go around swearing in interviews, etc.
she swears [a lot] when she isn't working. it isn't really an issue to me if zac swears in general. i swear too. but this is his job. a few times, okay. but did you read the interview? he swore so freaking much, at times it wasn't necessary at all & it sounded stupid. it was kind of unprofessional & he was trying too hard in my opinion.i love him, but this interview was a turn off.

btw how would u know if vanessa has changed or not?

[save your day]

i haven't seen that much of zac's interviews
but i've seen enough
some from 3 year ago when hsm first came out
and some from now
and i think zac is just over the whole hollywood thing
not like he doesn't care but where it's not entirely something really important
he's just tolerating it
and maybe we are all seeing the real zac now
without Disney on his back all the time you know
to me now, he seems like a really sarcastic guy with dry sense of humor, who's really chill
and someone who might use the word fuuck in normal conversation
idk that's just how i seem him now
i don't really have a problem with cussing, i cuss all the time so i don't really care
if this is the real zac with no pretense or facade i don't get why it
causes people to sometimes like second guess who they thought he really is
i'm not saying that's what some of you guys are doing
i just think it's actually more endearing and real
like he's approachable and tangible
....idk

[zanessaistrueluv]

he keeps bringing up sex and everything with the swearing and its like zac we know your a big boy now, dont go overboard

[yesplease]

I was surprised at first, but I knda like it lol

[beeee.]

by the way, kinda off topic but the 'too skinny' comment was so rude.
he sounded like an a.s.s.

& the 'you're beautiful, olivia' part kinda bothered me because even though
i really don't like vanessa i feel like he makes her look stupid.
flirting with other girls in front of a reporter is kinda wrong when you are in a public relationship but whateverrr. just my opinion.

love u zac.
for all we know, he migt not of said 'too skinny'
plus, hes a guy that what he doess.
lmfao!!

Senioritis...
i've noticed V has changed too.
dont ask e how, becaus ei cant be bothered to get into it all right now. gahh.
and i dont wanna start fights.

[BetOnIt]

I think his behaviour hasn't changed he just made some descions

[cblodg]

yeah but vanessa doesn't go around swearing in interviews, etc.
she swears [a lot] when she isn't working. it isn't really an issue to me if zac swears in general. i swear too. but this is his job. a few times, okay. but did you read the interview? he swore so freaking much, at times it wasn't necessary at all & it sounded stupid. it was kind of unprofessional & he was trying too hard in my opinion.i love him, but this interview was a turn off.

btw how would u know if vanessa has changed or not?

Okay, first of all; when an interview is occuring that's off studio time and not one that was done as part of a press gaggle, we can consider that off the clock.

Yes, he did swear alot at times; however, did you read the context of the article? If you notice, the times when he was really swearing are times he was answering something passionately. Like when he was asked about the rumor he wore fake eyelashes and makeup. Most of the time it was more casual swearing.

Again, you really need to take this into context: It was an interview for a men's magazine, it took place in a very relaxed situation. I mean, you can tell this was not your standard sit down accross from eachother type of interview, it was a roving one. We can pretty much guess that the interviewer was swearing just as much and let's face it, that will put guys at ease and then we start doing it because it makes us feel like one of the guys.

Really, you have to take the full picture in to figure out where he is coming from. It's not like this was an Entertainment Weekly or People Magazine interview. This was for GQ, a men's magazine. Which, may I add, all the ladies seem to enjoy the pictures quite a bit.

[Ritta]

i was surprised but i don't have a problem with it

yeah me too..first when I saw it I was surprised but it doesn't matter to me

[Twilight]

It doesn't really bother me at all because I'm used to it everywhere I go and it was a
little shocking, but I'll get over it real quick and no problem from me.

[Madysonloveszanessa]

okay so heres the thing, this is personally my own opinion and i understand other people will most definatly disagree with me. To me i liked it better when zac didn't curse in his interviews. I mean yes i understand he's 21 he practically an adult, and he is able to do those things but for some reason i liked when he was more clean in his interviews. yea i understand ***, and ****, i think its hot when he says it but not the f word and stuff. I guess its just that im still used to him as a clean disney type boy. I know i sound a little immature but its just different for me to see him curse a lot now. i think its a little turn off to me. does anyone agree? your more than welcome to post your opinions.
YES!!!!!!!! FINALLY SOMBODY AGREES! I told my bff the other day that he had been acting diffrently and it kinda bothers me!

[squints]

Am I the only one that doesn't think it's hot that he says the fword alot? Eww

[hsmrulzmyworld]

okay so heres the thing, this is personally my own opinion and i understand other people will most definatly disagree with me. To me i liked it better when zac didn't curse in his interviews. I mean yes i understand he's 21 he practically an adult, and he is able to do those things but for some reason i liked when he was more clean in his interviews. yea i understand ***, and ****, i think its hot when he says it but not the f word and stuff. I guess its just that im still used to him as a clean disney type boy. I know i sound a little immature but its just different for me to see him curse a lot now. i think its a little turn off to me. does anyone agree? your more than welcome to post your opinions.

i'm with you on that one. i don't think its very wise of him to drop the F bombs everywhere. i swear, he has like a multiple personality disorder or something. one minute, he's all nice and charming, and the next, he's cursing his head off.

[cblodg]

i'm with you on that one. i don't think its very wise of him to drop the F bombs everywhere. i swear, he has like a multiple personality disorder or something. one minute, he's all nice and charming, and the next, he's cursing his head off.

Really?

[betweenthelines.]

Im not sure but didnt he only drop the F bomb like twice
Thats not even that bad
He only did it when he got angry about something

[whoaitsnicole]

Am I the only one that doesn't think it's hot that he says the fword alot? Eww

me.

[beeee.]

hsmrulzmyworld, zac is still a really sweet guy.
that interview was done im guessing before he was promoting 17 again. because he said something about japan? am i right? japan? i cant be bothered to go through it all again...
anyway! and when i met him, he was super super nice and kind and sweet adorable. blah blah blah. he hasnt changed!

[cblodg]

Im not sure but didnt he only drop the F bomb like twice
Thats not even that bad
He only did it when he got angry about something

It was more than twice, but you are correct it was when he was angry.

[K3ZG]

But seriously, he's hot, down to earth, and he speaks what's on his mind. An actor who can do all of that is pretty awesome. Honestly, he cussed like in an adult's magazine, not in one where 12 or 13 year old read everyday. On interviews that deal with younger kids, he talks without cussing,

Sorry if it's been said already

[TheWayYouMakeMeFeel]

cmon guys zacs an adult now and he can swear if he wants too.
I actually don't mind this interview cuz Zac is finally being himself in this one.
I mean sure he says the F word alot but cmon hes an adult and hes allowed to swear and cmon look im an adult well in aussie 18 is the legal age for an adult but hey cmon I swear alot too.

Zac is just being himself and this interview this is just the side of Zac we didn't see and I think its an awesome interview lol.

[across the universe.]

Im not sure but didnt he only drop the F bomb like twice
Thats not even that bad
He only did it when he got angry about something
are you kidding? i've never seen a celebrity swear so much in a interview.
to me it was so... ugh... it's ok to swear once or twice but ugh, it was way more.
he's sworn before & it never bothered me but this was over the top.
again, this is just me & it's just an opinion.

[K3ZG]

are you kidding? i've never seen a celebrity swear so much in a interview.
to me it was so... ugh... it's ok to swear once or twice but ugh, it was way more.
he's sworn before & it never bothered me but this was over the top.
again, this is just me & it's just an opinion.

He was speaking his mind
I'm not trying to cause a fight or anything
He's just can't be the seventeen year old from ham

[Kat_ZAC]

if the interview was swearing a lot then that could've made him swear more bcuz i know when i'm with my friends i swear more then normal because they do. but idk... besides zac is only human and there's 15yr old who swear just as much so i dont see it as that big of a deal

[cblodg]

are you kidding? i've never seen a celebrity swear so much in a interview.
to me it was so... ugh... it's ok to swear once or twice but ugh, it was way more.
he's sworn before & it never bothered me but this was over the top.
again, this is just me & it's just an opinion.

You seriously have never seen a celebrity swear that much in an interview? Does the name Sean Penn mean anything to you? Mel Gibson went off a couple of times. We won't even get into Mike Tyson (like it or not he's a celebrity). Jane Fonda kinda had a tirade on live TV once. Robin Williams has done it too.

Trust me, there are other celebrities who have said far worse and gone on longer tirades.

Zac was on Rove with Russel Brand he dropped the F-bomb a couple of times along with some other colorful language, and that was live TV. Granted that was Australia and they have different standards than we do in the US.

I guess I just don't get it. Look at the context of the interview. It's men's magazine. If it weren't for the pictures you all who have a problem with this never would have read it in the first place. I've said it before, I'll say it again; this interview was not geared towards Zac's fan base or even women in general. It was geared towards men. It used language that guys use more than we probably should, but we accept it more.

Zac is an adult. Those who have an issue with him swearing are gonna have to learn to accept and move on.

You have to stop viewing Zac as his character and start seeing him as Zac the actor. If you can't move past viewing him as his character in HSM then you will never accept the roles he takes in the future.

[betweenthelines.]

You know what.. I really don't care if he swears or not. I don't think any less of him. I actually like it because we get to see the real Zac with nothing holding him back. Thats just my opinion.

But no matter what people think about the situation, it's not going to stop him from swearing.

[across the universe.]

like i said, this is just me & my opinion. you don't have to agree.
ilove zac a lot.

[cblodg]

words of love... you every right to your opinion. No one said you didn't like Zac. I find an irony though that you have a problem with him dropping the F-bomb and yet you have that very word in your signature. Interesting observation is all, not desparaging you.

[Missay]

He's finally out of the Disney bubble and everyone is flipping out about it. Pretty sure he's always talked like this. He's cussed in interviews before but now it's suddenly a big deal. He's trying to move to a bigger fanbase, and this article wasn't even geared towards his younger fans. Honestly, cussing is not even a big deal. So he threw out a few F bombs. The world isn't going to end.

[mandyjane]

omg i cant believe he said the f word i hate him forever. =(


nahhht

[anna_]

i hated the gq interview. his swearing was unprofessional & immature.
idc if he swears. i do too, but behind closed doors. this is his job. seriously? i think he's trying way too hard, idk. it made me lose a bit of respect. it was soooo unnecessary.

not bashing him, i love zac.

omg, i really agree with you.
i know he's a really wise guy, so i was really disappointed
when he's trying to impress people by swearing. a lot.

and as much as i hate to admit this,
i lose a little respect for him. i really
hope he reads this article and realize
how stupid he sounds. sorry, zac. <3



his swearing was incredibly badâss and sexy.

uhm, of course you will think that, because you're soo obsessed with him - not bashing, btw. (:
but this is GQ, the men who read it is not a fan of zac, and i'm sure they won't look at him differently if he's being this immature.
it's all about proving himself that he's mature enough and all, but droping the f-bombs in almost every question just makes him sound really unprofessional.

and i think most people would agree with me if i say that we're not freaking out about the fact that he says fuuck.
but... he says it 89134781471 times, and it was really unnecessary. and some of them didn't make any sense. we're just guessing that he wants to sound cooler and be like "oh, i'm not with disney anymore. i can swear all i want.". saying fuucks doesn't make people respect him more.
...eh, i don't even know what i'm rambling about. sorry if you actually read that. hahah x]

oh, and btw, don't quote me saying "he's a big guy, he can swear all he wants" or "maybe that's who he is" or "idc, his swearing was so fricken hot". i know all of that. and it still hasn;t changed my opinian.

but i still ♥ him.

[across the universe.]

words of love... you every right to your opinion. No one said you didn't like Zac. I find an irony though that you have a problem with him dropping the F-bomb and yet you have that very word in your signature. Interesting observation is all, not desparaging you.
pls read what i said again. i'm so tired of explaining this over & over againnn.

[anna_]

^ hahah, i pity you bb. (:
i guess people really can't understand
the real reason why we didn't like this article.

[MinorThreat]

ive just read this thread through with my mates and a few of them said that fame is going to his head :S.

i think it could he cause he has left the squeaky clean disney image and he is free to do what he wants * in a sense *

[muchbetter*]

he's an adult.
i doubt he cares what anybody thinks of his swearing
he said some of the most inspirational things ever in that interview.

“I mean—they lived here,” Efron says, gesturing out at the city, clearly meaning not Hollywood the place but Hollywood, the state of being. “They made it through all this.”

[beeee.]

ive just read this thread through with my mates and a few of them said that fame is going to his head :S.

i think it could he cause he has left the squeaky clean disney image and he is free to do what he wants * in a sense *
i dont think fame has gone to his head.

you would know. right?

[bad romance.]

He's finally out of the Disney bubble and everyone is flipping out about it. Pretty sure he's always talked like this. He's cussed in interviews before but now it's suddenly a big deal. He's trying to move to a bigger fanbase, and this article wasn't even geared towards his younger fans. Honestly, cussing is not even a big deal. So he threw out a few F bombs. The world isn't going to end.

yup, agreed.

[cblodg]

ive just read this thread through with my mates and a few of them said that fame is going to his head :S.

i think it could he cause he has left the squeaky clean disney image and he is free to do what he wants * in a sense *

Wow. If fame is going to his head, don't you think he'd be doing roughly the same things other young Hollywood stars do. Hell, even the GQ article points out that he's not like other young stars.

[cblodg]

he's an adult.
i doubt he cares what anybody thinks of his swearing
he said some of the most inspirational things ever in that interview.

“I mean—they lived here,” Efron says, gesturing out at the city, clearly meaning not Hollywood the place but Hollywood, the state of being. “They made it through all this.”

That last quote is exactly why he is going to be fine. He got out of mainstream LA to really save himself. He's a personal private person and I'm glad he's found the peace he deserves to have.

[cblodg]

pls read what i said again. i'm so tired of explaining this over & over againnn.

Well I'm a guy so we need things explained really simple;)

I don't get it because I'm a guy, I'm the target audience. This is how Zac really is. We all need to deal with it.

I've said it before, I'll say it again; If you can't get past Zac's Troy Bolton character persona and start seeing him as Zac the actor, you will never accept his future roles.

[TrueLove]

I've said it before, I'll say it again; If you can't get past Zac's Troy Bolton character persona and start seeing him as Zac the actor, you will never accept his future roles.

^ that is so true but its going to take quite some time for some of fans to get used to this side of zac. for example me. im slowly gettin used to it but i did lose a little respect for him.


omg, i really agree with you.
i know he's a really wise guy, so i was really disappointed
when he's trying to impress people by swearing. a lot.

and as much as i hate to admit this,
i lose a little respect for him. i really
hope he reads this article and realize
how stupid he sounds. sorry, zac. <3




uhm, of course you will think that, because you're soo obsessed with him - not bashing, btw. (:
but this is GQ, the men who read it is not a fan of zac, and i'm sure they won't look at him differently if he's being this immature.
it's all about proving himself that he's mature enough and all, but droping the f-bombs in almost every question just makes him sound really unprofessional.

and i think most people would agree with me if i say that we're not freaking out about the fact that he says fuuck.
but... he says it 89134781471 times, and it was really unnecessary. and some of them didn't make any sense. we're just guessing that he wants to sound cooler and be like "oh, i'm not with disney anymore. i can swear all i want.". saying fuucks doesn't make people respect him more.
...eh, i don't even know what i'm rambling about. sorry if you actually read that. hahah x]

oh, and btw, don't quote me saying "he's a big guy, he can swear all he wants" or "maybe that's who he is" or "idc, his swearing was so fricken hot". i know all of that. and it still hasn;t changed my opinian.

but i still ♥ him.

^ thats exactly what i said.

[K3ZG]

It's pretty hot though ;D

[Rock_My_World_Efron]

i think that GQ interview had way to many cuss words in it. he didn't need to say all of them. i don't mind a few but that was a little much.
i can see him doing that though. haha.

[MinorThreat]

ive just read the interview again, * 1st time i read it i was half asleep *
and i dont think that theres anything wrong. he is just telling the truth, and everyone swears
he is just being himself..
i think its stupid. its all disney fault, they create a good starting point for actors, but because of that people expect these actors to be squeaky clean, zac got told once that he was not aloud to be seen kissing V..
personally i want to see a video of this interview,or a voice recording, cause i think hearing zac swear, will probs be Hott ! . but reading it in a interview isnt xD

[<33ZacEfron]

i just read the interview
and yes, i know he's older
yes, it's 'natural' to swear
but man...in an interview?
it's kind of annoying.
i agree that it could've been
toned down a bit. :/

[AFRICA]

Some of you are just in denial. You cannot refute the fact that the only reason he is acting this way is so people think he's hardcore and non-Disney. Zac never talked like this before, he said a$$ a few times or whatever. But as soon as he wanted to become a "serious" actor everything changed. I suppose he had to change that's cool. Most of us saying that he has changed aren't saying that it's a bad thing. It's just how he is doing it. If he wants to be a serious actor he needs to do SERIOUS movies, not like 17 Again. No need to get all defensive, changing isn't a bad thing. This magazine is for guys and when guys see DISNEY ZAC EFRON talking like this their going to be like "douchebag' assuming guys even read the articles lol.

[xXJaylaXx]

A lot of his fans are younger, and know him from HSM. He's grown up now. He's going to act like a grown up. He might not be acting "fake" the true him might be coming out. He is changing, because he's getting older. I'm sure none of you are the same as you were 3 years ago, or even a year ago. Everyone wants to think of him as a Disney star, and that's not what he wants, he's made it clear. But now he's maturing. Swearing may not seem mature to some of you, but it honestly is a way some people mature. I'm close to Zac's age, so I know what it's like to want people to take you seriously, or show you are an adult now not a child.
Another thing about the interveiw, it wasn't all one right after another. I'm sure there was a lot more conversating going on when he may not have sworn. The interveiw is probably a few hours long. When you read it back to back like that it does seem like a lot of swearing.
But, HE'S A GROWN MAN!

[beeee.]

Some of you are just in denial. You cannot refute the fact that the only reason he is acting this way is so people think he's hardcore and non-Disney. Zac never talked like this before, he said a$$ a few times or whatever. But as soon as he wanted to become a "serious" actor everything changed. I suppose he had to change that's cool. Most of us saying that he has changed aren't saying that it's a bad thing. It's just how he is doing it. If he wants to be a serious actor he needs to do SERIOUS movies, not like 17 Again. No need to get all defensive, changing isn't a bad thing. This magazine is for guys and when guys see DISNEY ZAC EFRON talking like this their going to be like "douchebag' assuming guys even read the articles lol.
he said ehs working out what he wants to do. hes looking for more serious roles.
we know hes wants more serious roles. stop telling us that we're not stupid.
grrrrrrr

[AFRICA]

he said ehs working out what he wants to do. hes looking for more serious roles.
we know hes wants more serious roles. stop telling us that we're not stupid.
grrrrrrr

You obviously are seeing as you cannot read. I said that he has been saying he wants serious roles yet chooses films that are the opposite of that. He's contradicting himself trying to change in a way that may hurt him in the future.

[cblodg]

You obviously are seeing as you cannot read. I said that he has been saying he wants serious roles yet chooses films that are the opposite of that. He's contradicting himself trying to change in a way that may hurt him in the future.

Okay, you do realize 17 Again was filmed partially in 2007 and 2008. He followed it up with Me and Orson Welles and then he did HSM3. The releases were kind of funky because of some New Line issues, but 17 Again was meant to come out earlier.

I can't believe you're making this argument on a transition film. What did you want him to do? He wasn't going to get the roles he wanted, until he started to transition away from the HSM movies. How desperate do you think he would have looked holding an M-1 Garand in some WWII movie, or getting into a stand-off with the cops as some drug dealer in a movie? He would have looked absolutely stupid and no one would take him seriously at all.

He's in a transition. 17 Again is the engine that will drive him into a more mainstream audience. From what I can tell, it's working. Now he's getting more offers that will aid in his transition. If Me and Orson Welles could get a distributor, that would certainly help get him deeper into this transition phase.

So, I ask you, what is it that you want from him?

You and I pretty much agree on Johnny Quest not being the right role for him. At least I think we do.

[bad romance.]

'it's not high school anymore.'

i curse, literally everyone here curses.
i'm not saying it's a good thing, cause
it really isn't, but he's not the young
summerland boy anymore. he's like,
18 or 19 now? so, yeah. [:

[peachblossom]

'it's not high school anymore.'

i curse, literally everyone here curses.
i'm not saying it's a good thing, cause
it really isn't, but he's not the young
summerland boy anymore. he's like,
18 or 19 now? so, yeah. [:

he's 21 :)

[squints]

Cblodg, Me and Orson Welles was filmed in the summer after hsm3 I'm pretty sure.

[beeee.]

Cblodg, Me and Orson Welles was filmed in the summer after hsm3 I'm pretty sure.
No Me and Orson Welles was filmed early last year.
Before HSM3

[cblodg]

Cblodg, Me and Orson Welles was filmed in the summer after hsm3 I'm pretty sure.

Well, that's what I thought and I was wrong. Zac signed on to film Me and Orson Welles in January of 2008 right after filming on 17 Again wrapped. Me and Orson Welles filmed from January to sime time in late March or early April.

As much as I hate wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me_and_Orson_Welles

He then went on to film HSM3 from late april to June of 2008. Me and Orson Welles premiered at Toronto Film Festival in September of 2008.

[squints]

Thanks for clearing that up then, I have no idea where
I heard the wrong info from lol.

[KatieBash]

I agree, especially lately he has acted different, talks different, etc.
I mean, yeah he's an adult now and can drink and stuff, but Im talking personally he doesn't seem happy or just smiley like he used to. It's one thing to get older and grow up a little, but he has completely changed. There is almost nothing the same personally about him.


First thing I have to say is It's kinda funny how in America you have to be 21 to drink and be considered an 'adult' but here in the UK it's 18! I personally think the american way is better but then again now I'm 18 it would be a bit annoying to know that after ive just been able to have a drink now and again that i would ahve to wait like 3 yrs to be able to again if u get me lolz!

Anyway i don't see the problem with Zac swearing! I mean sure if he's doing it a lot like you've all been saying he does in this GQ interview - btw is it on the internet somewhere?- but if it was someone u heard on the street or one of ur friends or family that was doing it u wouldn't care so much probably! Just cuz he's in the public eye doesn't mean he has to act a certain way. Also if u think about it he's been a 'disney boy' for so long and for his last teen years that he will probs be just letting it all out now cus he couldn't when he was under contract. I guess it's a release for him and maybe when he's been 'free' for a bit he will tone it down - we'll just have to see. I can see the cause for concern as far as younger kids that were fans of hsm but are they likely to read GQ? It's not like he will use language in teen magazines and kids ones so its not really a big concern. I will admit to being a bit shocked but i quite like seeing this more rebellious side to him, i mean he's 21, he's not gonna keep the innocent act forever. He's said himselve in interviews that he want's to move on from that and be more grown up. mebbe this is his way of trying to show he is!? sorry this is mega long, the ideas kept flowing lolz

[Charlie St Cloud]

Zac is just grown up.

[sexfron and bbv]

I personally don't see a problem with it. Who cares if he swears.


I'd just like to say that he would probably laugh at everyone for over analyzing every single word he says and every single move he makes. So he swears, how is that a big deal? Everyone swears (or at least pretty much every adult I know, and most teens too). And maybe the people who have a problem with it are really young and just aren't used to that kind of language or something? I don't really understand it.


I love Zac as much as any of the rest of you, but just stop putting the guy on a pedestal and expecting him to be perfect and Disney-fied for the rest of his life. Let him live and speak how he wants without all the scrutiny.

[Charlie St Cloud]

I personally don't see a problem with it. Who cares if he swears.


I'd just like to say that he would probably laugh at everyone for over analyzing every single word he says and every single move he makes. So he swears, how is that a big deal? Everyone swears (or at least pretty much every adult I know, and most teens too). And maybe the people who have a problem with it are really young and just aren't used to that kind of language or something? I don't really understand it.


I love Zac as much as any of the rest of you, but just stop putting the guy on a pedestal and expecting him to be perfect and Disney-fied for the rest of his life. Let him live and speak how he wants without all the scrutiny.

So true.

[lost in the stereo.]

zac efron rocks.

[cblodg]

I personally don't see a problem with it. Who cares if he swears.


I'd just like to say that he would probably laugh at everyone for over analyzing every single word he says and every single move he makes. So he swears, how is that a big deal? Everyone swears (or at least pretty much every adult I know, and most teens too). And maybe the people who have a problem with it are really young and just aren't used to that kind of language or something? I don't really understand it.


I love Zac as much as any of the rest of you, but just stop putting the guy on a pedestal and expecting him to be perfect and Disney-fied for the rest of his life. Let him live and speak how he wants without all the scrutiny.

Brothas and sistas, can I get an Amen!

AMEN! AMEN!

[LaurenLovesZac]

i personally don't see a problem with it. Who cares if he swears.


I'd just like to say that he would probably laugh at everyone for over analyzing every single word he says and every single move he makes. So he swears, how is that a big deal? Everyone swears (or at least pretty much every adult i know, and most teens too). And maybe the people who have a problem with it are really young and just aren't used to that kind of language or something? I don't really understand it.


I love zac as much as any of the rest of you, but just stop putting the guy on a pedestal and expecting him to be perfect and disney-fied for the rest of his life. Let him live and speak how he wants without all the scrutiny.


thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

<333

[cblodg]

First thing I have to say is It's kinda funny how in America you have to be 21 to drink and be considered an 'adult' but here in the UK it's 18! I personally think the american way is better but then again now I'm 18 it would be a bit annoying to know that after ive just been able to have a drink now and again that i would ahve to wait like 3 yrs to be able to again if u get me lolz!

Anyway i don't see the problem with Zac swearing! I mean sure if he's doing it a lot like you've all been saying he does in this GQ interview - btw is it on the internet somewhere?- but if it was someone u heard on the street or one of ur friends or family that was doing it u wouldn't care so much probably! Just cuz he's in the public eye doesn't mean he has to act a certain way. Also if u think about it he's been a 'disney boy' for so long and for his last teen years that he will probs be just letting it all out now cus he couldn't when he was under contract. I guess it's a release for him and maybe when he's been 'free' for a bit he will tone it down - we'll just have to see. I can see the cause for concern as far as younger kids that were fans of hsm but are they likely to read GQ? It's not like he will use language in teen magazines and kids ones so its not really a big concern. I will admit to being a bit shocked but i quite like seeing this more rebellious side to him, i mean he's 21, he's not gonna keep the innocent act forever. He's said himselve in interviews that he want's to move on from that and be more grown up. mebbe this is his way of trying to show he is!? sorry this is mega long, the ideas kept flowing lolz

Here you go Katie:

http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_8677

Remember, as you said, this is a MEN'S magazine.

[rose garden.]

I think some of you are over analyzing it when we say "he has changed". We know it's normal for a 21 year old to cuss. But the Zac we know, isn't like that, and has never been like that. Is it a crime for us to think he's changed? We're not necessarily saying it's a bad thing. Some of us just think he's trying to hard. Next thing you know he's not going to want anything to do with his teen fans because he wants to be serious and cool.
I never thought i'd say this,
but i kind of agree with you.

I'm actually quite sad that just because he's out of disney,
he's starting to cuss, coughtakepicswithanakedmodelcough and all that.
I miss the old zac ):
..but If that's been the real him all along, then I guess I miss who I thought he was? :l
and not to bash zac or anything,
but isn't he still supposed to be like, a good example for the kids?
alot of people still look up to him.
even if he's out of disney.

my opinion.

[ZacRocks30]

Personally the use of the f word a lot turns me off. I don't care if he uses the other cuss words. I just HATE the f word.

[InnocentlyClumsy]

In my opinion I'm really happy that the young ones who can't handle the swearing are not drooling over him. I'd be annoyed if only 13-16 year olds liked me and then 40 something year olds. There would be no middle group for the poor guy. He cracks me up with this stuff. I always thought something was wrong with him being so perfect and everything. He's human.
Let a guy suck on his toe in SNL and let him swear a little. Let him blow up clay people in Robot Chicken who cares.

[AFRICA]

*quotes everyone who agrees with me in an attempt to think that I am cool*

[LoveZac415]

You guys are crazy. He's INCREDIBLE. And we're just seeing more of him than we're used to. Nobody is perfect...well I mean...Zac is :) lol

[Kali]

A little bit of cursing every once and a while does not mean he has changed. He's just a little bit more free. And he seems to have a pretty sarcastic and dry sense of humor which may have evolved a little bit in recent years. I'm much more sarcastic now than I was even a year or two ago. If he were stumbling out of clubs at 3 in the morning drunk off his ***, then there'd be an argument but right now, it's nothing to get upset over.

[em1234]

almost 150 posts on zac swearing...really?

[squints]

Forreal can we let this thread die its been two weeks already...

[Lisa_Louise]

I've just read that internview and I'd like to say something.. It's good so don't worry lol!!!

He seems to be growing up fast, In the line of work he does you HAVE to grow up fast, it's just the way it is. He is more aware of how things work, avoiding the paps, being asked the same questions over and over again can't be easy on a new star. He must be getting tired of it all but is learning how to deal with it the best way he can. The mag is a typical male dominated area, men swear and he probably does swear and it's no doubt shocked a lot of younger fans that he isn't so squeaky-clean but just "normal" !! He's expressing himself better, the swearing doesn't bother me in the slightest.

[Zacluver126]

Here you go:

http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_8677

I gotta ask, how did you all feel when you heard him say "Kiss my ***" in Hairspray? I know I was shocked at first thinking "did he really just say that?" The shock wore off though.
i thought he was pretty funny in that part its not that bad but... it is sexaaay

[BeWithMeChrisD.]

in my opinion, i dont really care cuz that is not going to really affect the way i think about him. its his right to cuss or not. if you think about it, practically everyone cusses. (i dont) if he wants to cuss, its his choice, sure i think its impolite but i cant go up to him and say "can you stop cussing please?? i dont like it." no, im not doing that. as long as he doesnt say that to an innocent fan like most of us who just want to say hi, im fine with it.

[Rachel*]

well i curse so i dont really think that much of it,but hes not really a hyper teen anymore.which i miss..
eg. the vid of him in new york is so old yet so awesome <33

[BeWithMeChrisD.]

^^ yeah, we cant make him a teenager forever.

[cblodg]

^^ yeah, we cant make him a teenager forever.


^^^
That is the truest statement! As Zac changes and transitions, so must his fans. He's growing up and doing adult things and still is quite responsible about his decisions.

there are worse things he could be doing.

And woah digging up an old horse!

[BeWithMeChrisD.]

^^^
That is the truest statement! As Zac changes and transitions, so must his fans. He's growing up and doing adult things and still is quite responsible about his decisions.

there are worse things he could be doing.

And woah digging up an old horse!

and once he starts doing all that, we just have to patient. and even if he does something we all dont like, we cant make him change his mind. (unless if someone does something to make him change his mind. lol)

[cblodg]

and once he starts doing all that, we just have to patient. and even if he does something we all dont like, we cant make him change his mind. (unless if someone does something to make him change his mind. lol)


Even he's said he won't be able to make everyone happy (which is true) but I don't think we're gonna see him become some wild star like a Lohan or some other wacked out celebrity. He's pretty grounded and seems to have surrounded himself with good people that will snap him back.

I think he also realizes what he has can all be gone if he screws up the wrongest way possible.

[BeWithMeChrisD.]

Even he's said he won't be able to make everyone happy (which is true) but I don't think we're gonna see him become some wild star like a Lohan or some other wacked out celebrity. He's pretty grounded and seems to have surrounded himself with good people that will snap him back.

I think he also realizes what he has can all be gone if he screws up the wrongest way possible.


exactly. he has a good repuation right now. if he screwed it now, there goes everything he has worked for.

[anna zefron4ever]

as for me,i dont have at all any problem with this cuz its completly normal,as he will growing up his behavor and the whole he with chance and actually in my opinion its time to chance a little bit,but this does mean that he wont be the zac we all know and love.
i still love him

[anna zefron4ever]

hey guys btw does any1 know his religeon?

[cblodg]

hey guys btw does any1 know his religeon?

He's agnostic.

[AFRICA]

Guys curse a lot? Where are these studies that say this? I'm a guy and I hardly ever curse, what a stereotypical thing to say. You can't say Zac curses because he's a guy because he never cursed before (that we heard). That is until he decided he want to be a serious actor. Saying a$$ in HS doesn't count, it was part of the script, it wasn't him saying it it was his character so it's not a big deal.

Of course he's changed. He had to adapt to the ever changing life style that is fame. He doesn't know what next week is going to bring so he has to change so that he can continue to work in this industry. I might not agree with the way he is trying to become a serious actor. But hey he isn't Troy Bolton anymore he has to move on. Change is something we can't stop.

[BritGirl]

Guys curse a lot? Where are these studies that say this? I'm a guy and I hardly ever curse, what a stereotypical thing to say. You can't say Zac curses because he's a guy because he never cursed before (that we heard). That is until he decided he want to be a serious actor. Saying a$$ in HS doesn't count, it was part of the script, it wasn't him saying it it was his character so it's not a big deal.

Of course he's changed. He had to adapt to the ever changing life style that is fame. He doesn't know what next week is going to bring so he has to change so that he can continue to work in this industry. I might not agree with the way he is trying to become a serious actor. But hey he isn't Troy Bolton anymore he has to move on. Change is something we can't stop.

Exactly right, and how it should be. No-one stays the same forever.

[betweenthelines.]

Agreed. Zac is going to change and there is nothing we can do about. He is going to do some more things that people don't like but its his life, not ours.

[across the universe.]

Agreed. Zac is going to change and there is nothing we can do about. He is going to do some more things that people don't like but its his life, not ours.
yes. (;

[K3ZG]

either way,
i'll still love Zachary forever <3

[BeWithMeChrisD.]

Agreed. Zac is going to change and there is nothing we can do about. He is going to do some more things that people don't like but its his life, not ours.
exactly. we cant do anything about it like how we cant do anything about an issue we cant solve like if someone we dont like is our team captain or whatever.

[GLAMBERT.]

c'mon. its just words (:
and he's growing up right!? its part of life.
atleast he's not doing drugs, etc.
theres other stuff he could be doing, but isnt.


i still love him (:

[BeWithMeChrisD.]

^^ still love him too.

[GLAMBERT.]

..its kinda hot when he swears :oops:
(cause like,we rarely hear him swear!)
LMAO.

[betweenthelines.]

^
agree. i think its really hot
hubba hubba (;

[GLAMBERT.]

^ haha, finally someone else who likes it too(;

[BeWithMeChrisD.]

yeah, i barely hear him cuss anyway. its cute!

[micaro9]

I'm probably one of the older fans on this board ( 28) , and I just recently became aware of Zac. I took my neice to see 17 again and was surprised at how good he was, I had never seen HSM at that point so I am not familar with how Zac "used to be"
so I can't get into that debate, but from my view, the issue isn't Zac, its the pervasiveness of information that allows people to somehow think they know a famous person because they read about them alot or follow what they do.
Zac said in the GQ interview he keeps his personality under wraps so this notion that he's changed or even that he's trying to be something he's not is pure speculation.

His image will shift but that has to shift in order for him to get the kind of parts he wants to play unless he does the Tom Cruise/Tom Hanks/ Will Smith route which is possible, but I get the sense he wants to do more edgy roles.

I think some people need to take a step back, Zac is not your personal robot,
I would advise people to like him for his work and if you like his personality then that's a bonus

[BeWithMeChrisD.]

I'm probably one of the older fans on this board ( 28) , and I just recently became aware of Zac. I took my neice to see 17 again and was surprised at how good he was, I had never seen HSM at that point so I am not familar with how Zac "used to be"
so I can't get into that debate, but from my view, the issue isn't Zac, its the pervasiveness of information that allows people to somehow think they know a famous person because they read about them alot or follow what they do.
Zac said in the GQ interview he keeps his personality under wraps so this notion that he's changed or even that he's trying to be something he's not is pure speculation.

His image will shift but that has to shift in order for him to get the kind of parts he wants to play unless he does the Tom Cruise/Tom Hanks/ Will Smith route which is possible, but I get the sense he wants to do more edgy roles.

I think some people need to take a step back, Zac is not your personal robot,
I would advise people to like him for his work and if you like his personality then that's a bonus

ur right. we do need to realize that as much as we all want to control him, we cant. hes not a puppet, or as you say a robot, he does what he wants. we can give him support for what he does and for who he is. nothing else.

[cblodg]

I'm probably one of the older fans on this board ( 28) , and I just recently became aware of Zac. I took my neice to see 17 again and was surprised at how good he was, I had never seen HSM at that point so I am not familar with how Zac "used to be"
so I can't get into that debate, but from my view, the issue isn't Zac, its the pervasiveness of information that allows people to somehow think they know a famous person because they read about them alot or follow what they do.
Zac said in the GQ interview he keeps his personality under wraps so this notion that he's changed or even that he's trying to be something he's not is pure speculation.

His image will shift but that has to shift in order for him to get the kind of parts he wants to play unless he does the Tom Cruise/Tom Hanks/ Will Smith route which is possible, but I get the sense he wants to do more edgy roles.

I think some people need to take a step back, Zac is not your personal robot,
I would advise people to like him for his work and if you like his personality then that's a bonus

I can tell you for a fact that at 20 something you are not the oldest person on the board. I thought so myself, and it's wasn't true.

As I've said many times, that Zac is grown up and will do things that will kind of make people do a double take. He's not born of Disney and he's done a pretty good job of shifting his image without having to get too drastic. Have there been some questionable things, sure but again that's his life and we have to go along with him as his fans.

Ultimately the impetus of this was several of the younger fans taking issue with his GQ article and the amount of swearing. I have postulated that that is probably the real Zac. GQ is a men's magazine and he was talking as men do and I'd be willing to place big money that the interviewer was swearing as well to get Zac more comfortable.

Ultimately, it didn't bother me as I'm in that target audience. However, I can see where some of the younger fans would have umbrage with it.

[BeWithMeChrisD.]

I can tell you for a fact that at 20 something you are not the oldest person on the board. I thought so myself, and it's wasn't true.

As I've said many times, that Zac is grown up and will do things that will kind of make people do a double take. He's not born of Disney and he's done a pretty good job of shifting his image without having to get too drastic. Have there been some questionable things, sure but again that's his life and we have to go along with him as his fans.

Ultimately the impetus of this was several of the younger fans taking issue with his GQ article and the amount of swearing. I have postulated that that is probably the real Zac. GQ is a men's magazine and he was talking as men do and I'd be willing to place big money that the interviewer was swearing as well to get Zac more comfortable.

Ultimately, it didn't bother me as I'm in that target audience. However, I can see where some of the younger fans would have umbrage with it.

i can shift easily from what he does. i may not like some things he may put out but i just go along with it. i wont be like 'i dont like him because he did this! i want him to do what he did way back when.' if he changes, i'll just hang on for the ride.

[cblodg]

i can shift easily from what he does. i may not like some things he may put out but i just go along with it. i wont be like 'i dont like him because he did this! i want him to do what he did way back when.' if he changes, i'll just hang on for the ride.

And that's the attitude you have. And that's not the attitude some of the other fans who had a problem with it had. They didn't want him to change.

[BeWithMeChrisD.]

^^ then thats their problem. not mine. i cant change it for them.... its their choice.

[cblodg]

^^ then thats their problem. not mine. i cant change it for them.... its their choice.

Oh of course. And very much agreed. I spent several days trying to reason with them and just stopped.

[BeWithMeChrisD.]

Oh of course. And very much agreed. I spent several days trying to reason with them and just stopped.
like what my dad tells me, when trying to reason with people who have their minds stuck on something (smoking for example), if you tell them otherwise, they will listen to no one.

[micaro9]

I can tell you for a fact that at 20 something you are not the oldest person on the board. I thought so myself, and it's wasn't true..


Really??? That speaks well on Zac's behalf, he's going beyond the (no offensive to anyone) but he's moving beyond the teenyboppers into the demographic he needs to stay relevant.

[KnightswhosayZAC21]

I agree that Zac has changed. He doesn't seem as thrilled about his job as he used to. I may just be paranoid, and he may just not show it as much, but the other day I was watching a video from when the first high school musical came out and he was in New York. He was being really goofy, and just being himself. Zac said himself that he never wanted to be famous and I think that is really getting to him. I think all the papparazi are getting to him, and ruining the fun of his job. As far as the swearing goes, I like it. It shows that he is growing up and is, indeed a real person, and not just some disney character. Everyone swears. I don't fully agree with him swearing in interveiws, but it kinda works for the GQ magazine. lol

[BeWithMeChrisD.]

I agree that Zac has changed. He doesn't seem as thrilled about his job as he used to. I may just be paranoid, and he may just not show it as much, but the other day I was watching a video from when the first high school musical came out and he was in New York. He was being really goofy, and just being himself. Zac said himself that he never wanted to be famous and I think that is really getting to him. I think all the papparazi are getting to him, and ruining the fun of his job. As far as the swearing goes, I like it. It shows that he is growing up and is, indeed a real person, and not just some disney character. Everyone swears. I don't fully agree with him swearing in interveiws, but it kinda works for the GQ magazine. lol

well said my friend.

[Dante]

I agree that Zac has changed. He doesn't seem as thrilled about his job as he used to. I may just be paranoid, and he may just not show it as much, but the other day I was watching a video from when the first high school musical came out and he was in New York. He was being really goofy, and just being himself. Zac said himself that he never wanted to be famous and I think that is really getting to him. I think all the papparazi are getting to him, and ruining the fun of his job. As far as the swearing goes, I like it. It shows that he is growing up and is, indeed a real person, and not just some disney character. Everyone swears. I don't fully agree with him swearing in interveiws, but it kinda works for the GQ magazine. lol

I think you are right. When every move is photographed and analysed it must be tough to relax and enjoy yourself.

Still, it's good that he can talk to Leonardo because he's been in the same position so I'm sure his advice helps him a lot.

[cblodg]

I agree that Zac has changed. He doesn't seem as thrilled about his job as he used to. I may just be paranoid, and he may just not show it as much, but the other day I was watching a video from when the first high school musical came out and he was in New York. He was being really goofy, and just being himself. Zac said himself that he never wanted to be famous and I think that is really getting to him. I think all the papparazi are getting to him, and ruining the fun of his job. As far as the swearing goes, I like it. It shows that he is growing up and is, indeed a real person, and not just some disney character. Everyone swears. I don't fully agree with him swearing in interveiws, but it kinda works for the GQ magazine. lol

Well done. I think Zac really does still enjoy his job immensly, otherwise he wouldn't still be doing this. There is kind of a lack of jovialness and playfulness and I think you're right, I think the whole paparazzi thing kind of drags him down. From what I can gather ,through various reports and such, he really prefers not to be the spectacle that seems to surround him now and that's probably some of it.

You do see his face light up when he's around his fans though. This is just me now, but I honestly think part of him still misses those days of promoing High School Musical. He's even said that he'd honestly go back and do another for free. So I think with his maturing career the situations start to mature as well.

Did that make any sense at all?

[KnightswhosayZAC21]

Thank you everyone, and cblodg, I understand you completely. I think he will always miss those days. He was with all of his really close friends and they were all just starting out. Now he is begining to work with actors that have been doing this a long time, and are used to everything, that he may feel like "going back to high school" in a way. lol

[BeWithMeChrisD.]

i think i read somewhere that if he could, he would still be doing high school musical. where did i see that???? oh yeah, a biography book i got.

[BritGirl]

He may still have a few years of intense paparazzi to put up with, but when the next young teenie film star comes along, hopefully it should die down for Zac, those photographers will move onto their next victim eventually!

Now Leonardo is older he does not have the press attention as much as it was when he was the new hot actor on the scene.

But it must get very frustrating not being able to go anywhere without a camera being pointed in his face all the time.

[Liza]

He seems just like any other 21 year old bloke I know! I don't mind at all.... especially as my language can be quite...um... colourful at times ;)

[KnightswhosayZAC21]

He seems just like any other 21 year old bloke I know! I don't mind at all.... especially as my language can be quite...um... colourful at times ;)
lol agree!!! I am younger than 21, and I think I swear more than him :(

[cblodg]

i think i read somewhere that if he could, he would still be doing high school musical. where did i see that???? oh yeah, a biography book i got.

He mentioned it in his GQ article as well.

[BeWithMeChrisD.]

he said something like he saw himself still doing HSM...like HSM 42. i guess thats no longer the case.

[micaro9]

Well done. I think Zac really does still enjoy his job immensly, otherwise he wouldn't still be doing this. There is kind of a lack of jovialness and playfulness and I think you're right, I think the whole paparazzi thing kind of drags him down. From what I can gather ,through various reports and such, he really prefers not to be the spectacle that seems to surround him now and that's probably some of it.

You do see his face light up when he's around his fans though. This is just me now, but I honestly think part of him still misses those days of promoing High School Musical. He's even said that he'd honestly go back and do another for free. So I think with his maturing career the situations start to mature as well.

Did that make any sense at all?


But I also think people need to give him some slack. He's only 21 years old and figuring it all out like the rest of us.
And for 21 he is incredibly poised, articulate and mature.
I went to the video thread and watched some interviews to see what people were talking about ......
To be 17 and get your big break doing a Disney movie and being 21 trying to make your own way is two different worlds. Though it's not a lot of time between the ages; a lot has happened to him in 4 years. He basically just went through college and I don't know one person who was the same going into college as coming out.

I honestly feel sorry for him and shia lebouf and Rob pattinson, The intense spotlight on them is glaring and happens very early on in their career now.
Leo was acting a while before Titanic hit and he changed a lot after that as well
As long as he keeps his integrity he'll be fine.

[cblodg]

Change is inevitable. The changes that were originally pointed out in this thread were signs of growing up, and a lot of younger fans didn't like that aspect and couldn't accept these changes (which is where you and I agree that slack needs to be given).

He's changed and had to grow up quickly. He's surrounded himself with people that help keep him grounded and he seems to be a very grounded person anyways.

[IloveyouCharlieSt.Cloud]

And by the sounds of this new thriller it seems that he really wants to shake off that disney teen star image.

[MkSnovak]

He has not changed in the least. HE is 21..and swears like everyone else. It's just before he was with Disney so they had to clean it all up. Now he doesn't have to worry about not being himself...

[betterintime.]

practically an adult? he IS an adult.
he can say whatever he wants in interviews.

[TrueLove]

it is true zac is growing up & he is an adult, & could do w.e he wants. i guess when i posted this thread i was just over reacting & was a some what madd that he swore & blah blah. i could honestly say im over it. & idc anymore. everyone will get over it sooner or later & will also not care as well. He is takin on moree mature roles for a reason which also means he has to act a little mature as well. just like papz. comes w. fame, swearing and other stuff come w. maturaty ( of thats a word.) for those who dont appreciate his cursing or him growing up will have to deal w. it. cause as i realized people change, they wont stay the same forever. i was supposed to say something else but i forgot. so sorry if by posting this it got people mad. i didnt mean for it to happen like that.

[mechanicaldummy.]

ok, i'm going to say this from my point of view.

i've known zac since he was like 16. yes, he has changed, but who hasn't? he grew up. he's not a boy, he's a man. i swear just as much, if not more and i'm younger. he is not part of the disney demographic anymore. he is doing more mature roles and is still growing up. he has the right to speak his mind if asked, which he was in the GQ interview. he's not out to impress anyone. no one has to impress anyone but themselves. i think that people should stop complaining because you cannot control anyone's actions except for your own. zac will do what he feels is right, and no one is going to stop him.

[cblodg]

ok, i'm going to say this from my point of view.

i've known zac since he was like 16. yes, he has changed, but who hasn't? he grew up. he's not a boy, he's a man. i swear just as much, if not more and i'm younger. he is not part of the disney demographic anymore. he is doing more mature roles and is still growing up. he has the right to speak his mind if asked, which he was in the GQ interview. he's not out to impress anyone. no one has to impress anyone but themselves. i think that people should stop complaining because you cannot control anyone's actions except for your own. zac will do what he feels is right, and no one is going to stop him.


Can I get an AMEN on that^^^!

[you suck at life.]

i LOVE when zac swears
SEXY ZACHARYYYYYYYYYY

[all i wanted]

i don't care.
i still love mr.zachary david alexander efron;
like i did when i first saw him in summerland : )

[Liza]

I find him swearing kinda sexy... and its like everyone has said... he's grown up! He can do and say whatever he likes...just like any other adult. ;)

[LorenzoItaly89]

Yeah he have change himself, now is an adult, is a man.
But the old Zac remain forever in my memory, the time change the people

[zac09]

You now i think it is just a man thing to be honest but am not that worried about it he still is a sweet person :)

[Problematique]

when has Zac cursed? :S

[cblodg]

His GQ article is probably the most recent time.

http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_8677

Again, this is geared towards men and not women or girls.

[beeee.]

hes a maaaan now.

-cries-
they grow up so fast.

[cblodg]

hes a maaaan now.

-cries-
they grow up so fast.
Good God you sound like a mother!

[beeee.]

Good God you sound like a mother!

HAHAHA!!

starla keeps asking you, where her baby went.

[cblodg]

Last I knew he was sailing in LA.

[Problematique]

Oh wow. Zac swears and its hot ;O

[Liza]

I for one am glad for him growing up a bit... now my friends don't think I'm so strange :)

[BritGirl]

His GQ article is probably the most recent time.

http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_8677

Again, this is geared towards men and not women or girls.

I really liked his GQ interview.
Probably because it was so normal and Zac and the interviewer did spend time together, it was not just cobbled together from a Q&A then padded out with assumptions and past quotes.

[beeee.]

Last I knew he was sailing in LA.

Bahaha, yeahh.

[bliss.]

Last I knew he was sailing in LA.:jump: ahahah!

[bliss.]

The problem to me is his the disney image he had. Disney uses to make young people believe in their fairies throught the subconscious, so, even though we all know he's not perfect nor the "good guy" type, we sorta believed he was what he's actually not. The fact he started with disney influences our way of thinking, even if we don't know that. When i read the GQ interview i was like "since when he started to curse?", and after i realized he's 21, and that probably lot of kids curse when they're 9. I bet i would had a completely different reaction to this interview (or i would had no reactions) if Zac could have started without disney, if he could have been since the beginning 100% himself. I have to force my stupid brain that he's a human, and that he's Zac Efron, a gorgeous young actor, full of potential, who acts like every 21 years old out of here, not Troy Bolton, the sqeack-clean disney pretty boy, made up by some PR. Lot of young people reacted not that good when they saw Zac with his tall friend and a box of Corona Lights, just because this was breaking the fake image they had in they head about Zac. As much as i try to think i have to focus on his carrer and not on his personal life, when people talk about him smoking or drinking (saying random things, not as true facts) i feel like…not a shock…but…well, i have a different reaction, I have to thanks disney and their stupid squeacky clean images. They made lot of teenagers believe he is the good guy. I don’t mean he’s a “bad” dude or something, it’s just that now, every single thing he does that doesn’t match with our personal image of him, will seem to lot of young people wrong, just because in the last 3 yrs disney’s PR made us thinking that he’s perfect. If he drinks a beer, where’s the big deal, every single young man drinks beer, he’s not using any sort of drugs...

[BeWithMeChrisD.]

The problem to me is his the disney image he had. Disney uses to make young people believe in their fairies throught the subconscious, so, even though we all know he's not perfect nor the "good guy" type, we sorta believed he was what he's actually not. The fact he started with disney influences our way of thinking, even if we don't know that. When i read the GQ interview i was like "since when he started to curse?", and after i realized he's 21, and that probably lot of kids curse when they're 9. I bet i would had a completely different reaction to this interview (or i would had no reactions) if Zac could have started without disney, if he could have been since the beginning 100% himself. I have to force my stupid brain that he's a human, and that he's Zac Efron, a gorgeous young actor, full of potential, who acts like every 21 years old out of here, not Troy Bolton, the sqeack-clean disney pretty boy, made up by some PR. Lot of young people reacted not that good when they saw Zac with his tall friend and a box of Corona Lights, just because this was breaking the fake image they had in they head about Zac. As much as i try to think i have to focus on his carrer and not on his personal life, when people talk about him smoking or drinking (saying random things, not as true facts) i feel like…not a shock…but…well, i have a different reaction, I have to thanks disney and their stupid squeacky clean images. They made lot of teenagers believe he is the good guy. I don’t mean he’s a “bad” dude or something, it’s just that now, every single thing he does that doesn’t match with our personal image of him, will seem to lot of young people wrong, just because in the last 3 yrs disney’s PR made us thinking that he’s perfect. If he drinks a beer, where’s the big deal, every single young man drinks beer, he’s not using any sort of drugs...

that takes the icing on the cake.
you tell it just like it is! i couldnt have said it any better!

[bliss.]

that takes the icing on the cake.
you tell it just like it is! i couldnt have said it any better!
:D Glad that someone understood what i wrote...and even agree!;)

[AFRICA]

The problem to me is his the disney image he had. Disney uses to make young people believe in their fairies throught the subconscious, so, even though we all know he's not perfect nor the "good guy" type, we sorta believed he was what he's actually not. The fact he started with disney influences our way of thinking, even if we don't know that. When i read the GQ interview i was like "since when he started to curse?", and after i realized he's 21, and that probably lot of kids curse when they're 9. I bet i would had a completely different reaction to this interview (or i would had no reactions) if Zac could have started without disney, if he could have been since the beginning 100% himself. I have to force my stupid brain that he's a human, and that he's Zac Efron, a gorgeous young actor, full of potential, who acts like every 21 years old out of here, not Troy Bolton, the sqeack-clean disney pretty boy, made up by some PR. Lot of young people reacted not that good when they saw Zac with his tall friend and a box of Corona Lights, just because this was breaking the fake image they had in they head about Zac. As much as i try to think i have to focus on his carrer and not on his personal life, when people talk about him smoking or drinking (saying random things, not as true facts) i feel like…not a shock…but…well, i have a different reaction, I have to thanks disney and their stupid squeacky clean images. They made lot of teenagers believe he is the good guy. I don’t mean he’s a “bad” dude or something, it’s just that now, every single thing he does that doesn’t match with our personal image of him, will seem to lot of young people wrong, just because in the last 3 yrs disney’s PR made us thinking that he’s perfect. If he drinks a beer, where’s the big deal, every single young man drinks beer, he’s not using any sort of drugs...

no matter how many times we try to say this people just dont get it.

[bliss.]

no matter how many times we try to say this people just dont get it.
i know...:( they're maybe just a lil slow...one day they'll get it too...:D

[BritGirl]

The problem to me is his the disney image he had. Disney uses to make young people believe in their fairies throught the subconscious, so, even though we all know he's not perfect nor the "good guy" type, we sorta believed he was what he's actually not. The fact he started with disney influences our way of thinking, even if we don't know that. When i read the GQ interview i was like "since when he started to curse?", and after i realized he's 21, and that probably lot of kids curse when they're 9. I bet i would had a completely different reaction to this interview (or i would had no reactions) if Zac could have started without disney, if he could have been since the beginning 100% himself. I have to force my stupid brain that he's a human, and that he's Zac Efron, a gorgeous young actor, full of potential, who acts like every 21 years old out of here, not Troy Bolton, the sqeack-clean disney pretty boy, made up by some PR. Lot of young people reacted not that good when they saw Zac with his tall friend and a box of Corona Lights, just because this was breaking the fake image they had in they head about Zac. As much as i try to think i have to focus on his carrer and not on his personal life, when people talk about him smoking or drinking (saying random things, not as true facts) i feel like…not a shock…but…well, i have a different reaction, I have to thanks disney and their stupid squeacky clean images. They made lot of teenagers believe he is the good guy. I don’t mean he’s a “bad” dude or something, it’s just that now, every single thing he does that doesn’t match with our personal image of him, will seem to lot of young people wrong, just because in the last 3 yrs disney’s PR made us thinking that he’s perfect. If he drinks a beer, where’s the big deal, every single young man drinks beer, he’s not using any sort of drugs...

I think you put that perfectly.
Unfortunately people have to realise Zac is not with Disney anymore, he is growing up and as such will do things that young fans might not like.
They just have to get over it, he is not staying a teenager forever!
In some ways he is moving away from the young fans now he can make mature films and that is probably more of a shock to them.

[bliss.]

I think you put that perfectly.
Unfortunately people have to realise Zac is not with Disney anymore, he is growing up and as such will do things that young fans might not like.
They just have to get over it, he is not staying a teenager forever!
In some ways he is moving away from the young fans now he can make mature films and that is probably more of a shock to them.
That's it. You know, i think it's way better for Zac to loose this supposed-to-be fans, who pretend to be die hard fans, but always put him down for every single stuff he does, just because they can't get why he's doing what they don't expect him to do. Like, helloooo, Zac is not Troy anymore!:multicolor:
Zac is NOT a squeacky-clean, plastic lil spastic (ahah copyrights to Amanda Bynes in Hairspray!:D), perfect "role model" (i can't get this, your parents are supposed to be the main role models, you can't look up an actor...someone you don't even know,duh!)...he's a human being with his own life, and his private life is NOT our businnes.

[BeWithMeChrisD.]

That's it. You know, i think it's way better for Zac to loose this supposed-to-be fans, who pretend to be die hard fans, but always put him down for every single stuff he does, just because they can't get why he's doing what they don't expect him to do. Like, helloooo, Zac is not Troy anymore!:multicolor:
Zac is NOT a squeacky-clean, plastic lil spastic (ahah copyrights to Amanda Bynes in Hairspray!:D), perfect "role model" (i can't get this, your parents are supposed to be the main role models, you can't look up an actor...someone you don't even know,duh!)...he's a human being with his own life, and his private life is NOT our businnes.

and the Best Award For Well-Said Words Of Zac On His Behalf goes to I.lOve.my.Bambi!!!

[BritGirl]

That's it. You know, i think it's way better for Zac to loose this supposed-to-be fans, who pretend to be die hard fans, but always put him down for every single stuff he does, just because they can't get why he's doing what they don't expect him to do. Like, helloooo, Zac is not Troy anymore!:multicolor:
Zac is NOT a squeacky-clean, plastic lil spastic (ahah copyrights to Amanda Bynes in Hairspray!:D), perfect "role model" (i can't get this, your parents are supposed to be the main role models, you can't look up an actor...someone you don't even know,duh!)...he's a human being with his own life, and his private life is NOT our businnes.

At last a voice of reason.
Yes we all have favourite actors, and like either their films or TV shows but that is where it ends.
We have no claim to their lives and I for one think fans who want to get obsessive about an actor must have something missing in their own life as it's not healthy.

[bliss.]

and the Best Award For Well-Said Words Of Zac On His Behalf goes to I.lOve.my.Bambi!!!aww thx!:D
It's my heart who spoke, so let's give the award to it!;)

[bliss.]

At last a voice of reason.
Yes we all have favourite actors, and like either their films or TV shows but that is where it ends.
We have no claim to their lives and I for one think fans who want to get obsessive about an actor must have something missing in their own life as it's not healthy.
yep!