The Death Of Charlie St. Cloud

[madisuun_]

Zac Efron is negotiating to re-team with "17 Again" director Burr Steers on an adaptation of the novel "The Death and Life of Charlie St. Cloud."

The film will likely be the next for Efron, who just ankled Paramount's "Footloose" remake.

Former "Good Morning America" exec producer Ben Sherwood wrote the book, about a caretaker at a cemetery who manages to have weekly meetings with a younger brother whose accidental death he feels was his fault.

Marc Platt is producing, and while Efron's deal is still being negotiated, Steers is set and has already begun polishing a script originally written by Craig Pearce, with James Schamus and Lewis Colick also turning in drafts.

Production will begin in July. The Efron-Steers collaboration "17 Again" will be released by New Line/Warner Bros. on April 17.

Paramount is meeting other actors to topline the Kenny Ortega-directed "Footloose," which the studio still expects will be on its 2010 release schedule.

A script rewrite for "Footloose" was turned in by Susannah Grant, and the studio is firming up music plans. Four songs from the original film will be used, and six new tunes will be added, from various artists. The film will not be a burst-into-song musical, though the heroine in the new film will be a singer.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118001616.html?categoryid=13&cs=1





plus heres the book summary -

The Death & Life of Charlie St Cloud by Ben Sherwood

The Death & Life of Charlie St Cloud is a moving tale of what happens when people are taken from this world to the next and considers that death may not be the end. It’s about finding your soul mate when you least expect. Charlie St Cloud, a bright Massachusetts kid, is 15 when, driving without a licence and trying to race the moon, he crashes a car and kills his younger brother, Sam.

Haunted by his loss, and honouring a pledge never to leave Sam, he takes a job tending the cemetery where Sam lies buried. It is then he discovers he can see and talk to Sam’s ghost and, just like the good old days, the brothers play baseball together every evening without fail for 13 years. Then Charlie meets Tess, a stunning young yachtswoman, visiting her father’s grave, and in one deliciously seductive evening, falls in love with her.

When Tess goes missing at sea, Charlie has to choose between keeping his appointment with Sam, or breaking free to search for Tess and the chance of a future he longs to have with her.

The book urges the reader to really live life to the full, dive for dreams and allow for the possibility of miracles. You have to suspend disbelief for this novel, but if you do you will love it.


& heres another article about it -

The Death and Life of Charlie St. Cloud by Ben Sherwood is so far the best book this reviewer has read this year. Reminiscent of Mitch Albom's The Five People You Meet in Heaven, Sherwood’s novel deals partly with death and what happens to us after we leave this earth. Unlike Albom's book, however, this one does not deal as much with whether one’s life was important and what mark a person left behind. Instead, Charlie’s story focuses on how one lets go of one’s loved ones, as well as learning how to move on.

Charlie St. Cloud was very close to his younger brother, Sam. The two were born out of wedlock, with different fathers, but with the love of their mother and a very strong brotherly bond, Sam and Charlie had a good life and were the best of friends. They did everything together and shared many interests including baseball. As well as being friends, Charlie also felt it was his duty to look after his younger brother.

Then one fateful day Charlie, Sam and their beloved dog, Oscar, are involved in an horrific automobile accident in which all three are pronounced dead. Charlie was fifteen and Sam was twelve. However, a fireman named Florio Ferrente is able to save one of them, and it happened to be Charlie. Florio, in fact, is the opening narrator of this novel, setting up the story about Charlie St. Cloud.

Thirteen years later, the reader is focused on a young woman who is about to take her first solo sailing trip around the world. This is her main goal in life, something that helps her forget about her father, who died two years ago. She has not yet learned to let go, and so she wraps herself around her work and her obsession with sailing. During a weekend sailing trip, she encounters a storm, and it is doubtful whether she will survive it.

The next scene finds Tess Carroll at the cemetery next to her father’s grave. It is there that she meets Charlie, who now earns a living at the cemetery, fulfilling a promise he made to Sam thirteen years ago. No matter what happened, Charlie promised, he would never leave Sam.

Tess and Charlie go out on a date, and it seems that their relationship may be on the verge of something more than just a simple friendship until Charlie receives bad news about Tess. He is now torn by his love for Sam and the life he has made for himself, and the need to have Tess in his life.

This was definitely a five-star-hanky book. As emotional as Albom’s books, The Death and Life of Charlie St. Cloud is a wonderfully crafted novel and Ben Sherwood does a fantastic job at creating this “world” that Charlie lives in, pulling one’s heartstrings. The book makes one question what really happens to our loved ones after they have passed on, but also makes us appreciate what little time we have on this earth. Whether there is a god or not, The Death and Life of Charlie St. Cloud may make a believer out of the most doubtful agnostic or atheist. This reviewer gives this book five stars and will most likely count it as one of her favorite books read in 2005.



BTW IS THIS THE RIGHT SECTION? i didnt know if it would go under projects or rumors since as of now, it is just a rumored potential role.

[madisuun_]

from the sounds of it, zacs character would be the 15 year old other brother, charlie.

i would think they are going to get a younger guy to play zacs character at 15 and then it skips to when hes in his 20s and then im guessing thats when zac would step in.

[Zacbaby]

I still think he should do Footloose. It's a mistake!

[rumplestiltskin]

This seems better than footloose, i hope he does this

[AFRICA]

is it just a coincidence that he only lands roles where he has already worked with the director?

[madisuun_]

is it just a coincidence that he only lands roles where he has already worked with the director?

there you go again.

i doubt hes been auditioning for very many things right now and directors obviously want to work with him again which is a compliment to him. plus if they give him good opportunities than why not. he has years to try and work with other directors.

[SupersonicGeek]

@AFRICA
well usually the directors already know the actor and they know what they're capable of so that's their first choice usually. But I've read that book and it sounds like an OK part for him. If I were picking the cast though, he wouldn't be my first choice

[TheWayYouMakeMeFeel]

yeah this was on oceanup.

Zac is currently negotiating to work with his '17 Again' director Burr Steers on an adaptation of the novel 'The Death and Life of Charlie St. Cloud,' reports Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118001616.html?categoryid=13&cs=1). The film will likely be his next, since dropping out of Footloose.

[TheWayYouMakeMeFeel]

is it just a coincidence that he only lands roles where he has already worked with the director?

yeah soo.

like take adam shankman he directed Hairspray and he produced 17 Again.

[AFRICA]

Lmfao I wasn't saying it was a bad thing
Of course he hasn't been auditioning he's been busy with everything so far.
But Zac says he wants to be a serious actor, well sticking with the same directors is just as bad.

[TheWayYouMakeMeFeel]

Lmfao I wasn't saying it was a bad thing ha ha, idiots.
Of course he hasn't been auditioning he's been busy with everything so far.
But Zac says he wants to be a serious actor, well sticking with the same directors is just as bad.


yea soo at least he is getting some new productions and stuff.
he might even like working with the same directors and producers and stuff.

[beeee.]

from the sounds of it, zacs character would be the 15 year old other brother, charlie.

i would think they are going to get a younger guy to play zacs character at 15 and then it skips to when hes in his 20s and then im guessing thats when zac would step in.
dylan? kmfao
he may be 17 but im sure he can pull it off. kmfao[i know he doesnt act]
im saying this as a joke.

[cblodg]

Lmfao I wasn't saying it was a bad thing ha ha, idiots.
Of course he hasn't been auditioning he's been busy with everything so far.
But Zac says he wants to be a serious actor, well sticking with the same directors is just as bad.

Steven Speilberg and Tom Hanks have worked on many productions. You have anything to say about his career? Directors will often times seek out actors they know because they know what they can bring to a film.

As for this movie, I like the idea. It's a good role and should provide for some nice drama in it. The role of Charlie would definitely push Zac and allow him to show a full range of acting. For those who think this is going to be a horror flick, it's not. All one need do is read the synopsis of the book and you can see that it's not a horror flick.

[cblodg]

dylan? kmfao
he may be 17 but im sure he can pull it off. kmfao[i know he doesnt act]
im saying this as a joke.

Actually beee, that's not a bad idea. At least they would have some resemblence. Heck, if he were good enough, see if he could play Sam.

I know the book is set in Massachusett's. I would so love to have it filmed up here. they could film it on Martha's Vinyard or on Cape Cod.

[beeee.]

Actually beee, that's not a bad idea. At least they would have some resemblence. Heck, if he were good enough, see if he could play Sam.

I know the book is set in Massachusett's. I would so love to have it filmed up here. they could film it on Martha's Vinyard or on Cape Cod.
Thankyouu! If Dylans gets cast, i would like to meet him. I'm the girl that suggested Dylan!!

kmfao. shame he doesnt like to act.

[cblodg]

Thankyouu! If Dylans gets cast, i would like to meet him. I'm the girl that suggested Dylan!!

kmfao. shame he doesnt like to act.

You could be the meat in an Efron sandwich:lol::-P

At least one site is giving Zac credit for attempting to get this role

http://www.cinemablend.com/new.php?id=12488

The more I read about this, the more I like it. It's a perfect drama that he CAN do and do very well. The book seems great and the premise is perfect.

[PowerpuffGirl]

Wow the story looks really cool
I hope Zac does this
I love these kinds of movies <3

[Rock_My_World_Efron]

yay! i hope he does it. seems like a mature role for him.

[betweenthelines.]

I really hope he does it
i kinda want to read the book now lol

[Charlie St Cloud]

I hope this is true.

[lilian1977]

The book is really good, definitely try and get hold of it!

[Charlie St Cloud]

I Think Zac would do great in The Death Of Charlie St. Clound.

[Lady V]

set begins in July ...what zac has the role , or he's in negociation again ?

[cblodg]

set begins in July ...what zac has the role , or he's in negociation again ?

According to what has been published, he's in negotiations. I would be surprised if he didn't get it given it's being directed by the same guy who did 17 Again and they both enjoyed working together.

[Charlie St Cloud]

According to what has been published, he's in negotiations. I would be surprised if he didn't get it given it's being directed by the same guy who did 17 Again and they both enjoyed working together.

I Hope Zac signs on.

[Twilight]

I really think this will be great for him and show us how he can do in these kinds of movies and roles, good luck Zac, I'll certainly will watch it and the book sounds so intriguing and will have to check it out. :)

[Zacefronitis]

Wow
Now I can see why he would drop Footloose...this sounds like an amazing film...
Maybe not the kind of 'mainstream' stuff you would expect of him but he has made it clear he's not in it for the fame so it would be nice to see him try something totally different.

[Linz]

I think it would be great if Zac played this role, it would be great to see him in something abit different

[Rach]

I think it would be great if Zac played this role, it would be great to see him in something abit different

I agree with you Linz, although footloose would have been good its nice to see Zac going in another direction. :grin:

[Charlie12]

It's better that he's not going for another musical (not that I don't like them) but it's a good change for him.

[WinterBelle]

It looks like this change will be a great one for him and I hope he chooses to do it.

[madisuun_]

if hes in negotiations that means they want him for the role and they are communicating with his people back and forth about it "negotiating" so right now its way further than him trying to land the role...its him accepting the role. im sure the director offered it to him.

[anna_]

so... is this confirmed?
it is confirmed, right? y/y?

[betweenthelines.]

ugh i was reading a post on perezhilton and he compared his role to lindsey lohan's in i know who killed me =/

[Charlie St Cloud]

The Death of Charlie St Cloud sounds like it will be amazing movie.

[cblodg]

ugh i was reading a post on perezhilton and he compared his role to lindsey lohan's in i know who killed me =/

That's coming from Perez Hilton. He's second only to Rush Limbaugh when it comes to wind bags. Perez wants Zac to fail. I don't listen to him and just wish others would stop wo he would go away.

[betweenthelines.]

That's coming from Perez Hilton. He's second only to Rush Limbaugh when it comes to wind bags. Perez wants Zac to fail. I don't listen to him and just wish others would stop wo he would go away.

I agree with you there, but Perez is usually pro Zac

[cblodg]

I agree with you there, but Perez is usually pro Zac

"Usually," being the key word. I don't care for Perez Hilton period. I don't care who he's commenting on.

[Charlie St Cloud]

I can't wait to see this movie.

[Baby _ Jx3]

sounds like a great role for him, might be a challenge
kinda sad plot

[Charlie St Cloud]

sounds like a great role for him, might be a challenge
kinda sad plot

Zac will be great.

[beeee.]

You could be the meat in an Efron sandwich:lol::-P

At least one site is giving Zac credit for attempting to get this role

http://www.cinemablend.com/new.php?id=12488

The more I read about this, the more I like it. It's a perfect drama that he CAN do and do very well. The book seems great and the premise is perfect.
yaya!!
hahah

[IloveyouCharlieSt.Cloud]

Yay sound cool you should read what they said on people.com! It says all about da role dat he's going to play and his freaky love interest!

[betweenthelines.]

Is anyone else going to read the book now?

[cblodg]

Is anyone else going to read the book now?

Thanks for reminding me. I need to look in my local book store. If they don't have it, I'll have to order it.

[beeee.]

im going to read the book too.
did the same thing with maow

[betweenthelines.]

im probably just gonna get it at my library
and yeah i read maow too
his character is such a creeper in that book lol

[JLin]

Wow this sounds like a really good project for Zac!

t4p

[Charlie St Cloud]

I hope this movied is Rated R.

[beeee.]

I hope this movied is Rated R.
i doubt it will be rated R.
it doesnt sound like it has anything init to make it an R.

i think it'll probably be a 12, 12A or a 15. [in UK ratings]

[anna_]

^ a few people i know said they
"did it" a lot of times. lmfao x]
doubt they're gonna put that in
the movie though. pg-13, probably?

[beeee.]

^ a few people i know said they
"did it" a lot of times. lmfao x]
doubt they're gonna put that in
the movie though. pg-13, probably?
haha ok. i'm sure it'll just be a 15 then.

[Charlie St Cloud]

i doubt it will be rated R.
it doesnt sound like it has anything init to make it an R.

i think it'll probably be a 12, 12A or a 15. [in UK ratings]

I know that I was just hoping.

[Just Interested 2]

I ordered the book on Amazon and started it a couple of days ago. Its good so far and I can just see Zac as this guy. I do hope things work out for Zac.

[DeeJay]

most of the time (99.99%) IMDB is right. and they dont have anything about The Death Of Charlie St. Cloud. and like when on zacs page and it nothings on there about a new movie.

[cblodg]

most of the time (99.99%) IMDB is right. and they dont have anything about The Death Of Charlie St. Cloud. and like when on zacs page and it nothings on there about a new movie.

Yeah, IMDb is pretty slow too. They probably won't put a page up until it reaches pre-production stages.

[beeee.]

really need this book.
*note to self.* look in tescos.

[anna_]

sooo... who do guys think will play tess?
wait what does she look like anyways?


most of the time (99.99%) IMDB is right. and they dont have anything about The Death Of Charlie St. Cloud. and like when on zacs page and it nothings on there about a new movie.

lmfao @ your sig. it's hilarious but
mean at the same time, cause
jacob is my future husbaaand. x]

[daniwani*]

"Usually," being the key word. I don't care for Perez Hilton period. I don't care who he's commenting on.


yeah the movie sounds cool and i cant wait to see it. lol i agree b/c i don't really like him either.

[ikkleinc]

there you go again.

i doubt hes been auditioning for very many things right now and directors obviously want to work with him again which is a compliment to him. plus if they give him good opportunities than why not. he has years to try and work with other directors.

also....he will have had to work with them for the first time before hand if that makes any sense??? and if they think he is good then why not work with him again?

[Charlie St Cloud]

I read this book. I Think Zac will be amazing in the Movie. but this one sence in the Book I Think Zac will need work on there is sex sence in the book.

But I don't think They will add that in the movie.

[cblodg]

Haha!

I have a new reason to love this movie! Zac's character is a Red Sox fan! Yesssssssss! I can't see them changing this for the movie as it actually plays an intricate part in the story. I so hope they film it up here in New England. Hell, I'll volunteer to sit in the stands at Fenway Park as an extra if need be. I'd do anything to get into Fenway Park these days!

This is just icing on the cake for this book and movie!

[betweenthelines.]

Haha!

I have a new reason to love this movie! Zac's character is a Red Sox fan! Yesssssssss! I can't see them changing this for the movie as it actually plays an intricate part in the story. I so hope they film it up here in New England. Hell, I'll volunteer to sit in the stands at Fenway Park as an extra if need be. I'd do anything to get into Fenway Park these days!

This is just icing on the cake for this book and movie!

I totally agree with you. It just make it so much more exciting. They will have to film some of it up in Boston because you just can't recreate Fewway Park. It will be so exciting if Zac and I are in the same state

[Just Interested 2]

I finished reading the book today too. I really enjoyed it. I could imagine Zac as Charlie. Some scenes could be interesting!!!!!! I thinks its a lovely storyline. My daughter was worried it would be a horror film but now I can ease her mind that its nothing like that at all. Do we know for sure that Zac is doing this movie? Has he said anything himself about it or is it really still a rumour?

[cblodg]

I finished reading the book today too. I really enjoyed it. I could imagine Zac as Charlie. Some scenes could be interesting!!!!!! I thinks its a lovely storyline. My daughter was worried it would be a horror film but now I can ease her mind that its nothing like that at all. Do we know for sure that Zac is doing this movie? Has he said anything himself about it or is it really still a rumour?

He confirmed it at the Kid's Choice Awards. Kathryn then re-confirmed it.

[BritGirl]

I read the book and it's a lovely story. It is interesting as you actually think the story is one thing but turns out to be something else. It should come under the heading romance.

I think Zac would be great in this, he will certainly have to grow up for the film as Charlie in the book is 28, so I did wonder to start off with how they could make him younger, but I think it will work.

[cblodg]

I read the book and it's a lovely story. It is interesting as you actually think the story is one thing but turns out to be something else. It should come under the heading romance.

I think Zac would be great in this, he will certainly have to grow up for the film as Charlie in the book is 28, so I did wonder to start off with how they could make him younger, but I think it will work.

I think they'll probably re-work the story a little to try and keep the character's age in Zac's age range. These are must my thoughts.

I hope they keep it set in New England as what leads to the accident is actually pretty important. I haven't yet recieved my copy, but I have been able to read a little online.

[Charlie St Cloud]

I can't wait to see Zac In The Death Of Charlie St. Clound.

[xxxILOVEZACxxx]

lol hope theres a uk premiere!!! haha

[betweenthelines.]

I got my copy the other day and it only took me a couple hours to read. I cried alot lol but it was a very good book. I was not expecting for the story to turn out the way it did.

[cblodg]

I got my copy the other day and it only took me a couple hours to read. I cried alot lol but it was a very good book. I was not expecting for the story to turn out the way it did.

don't give it away. I'm hoping that Amazon can still come through for me. Still waiting.

[BritGirl]

don't give it away. I'm hoping that Amazon can still come through for me. Still waiting.

We will not give anything away. You will enjoy the book when it arrives. I hope Amazon does not disappoint!

[Just Interested 2]

don't give it away. I'm hoping that Amazon can still come through for me. Still waiting.


I got my copy from Amazon so dont worry, they will deliver!

[kuuipotorix3]

That's coming from Perez Hilton. He's second only to Rush Limbaugh when it comes to wind bags. Perez wants Zac to fail. I don't listen to him and just wish others would stop wo he would go away.
ha rush is actually wayy smarter then most people thinkk.

[cblodg]

ha rush is actually wayy smarter then most people thinkk.

I am not turning this into a political debate. I know Rush is smart, but he's also a pontificating wind bag, much like Perez Hilton.

If you want to discuss politics, then keep it on the thread you started. This is NOT a political board.

[kuuipotorix3]

sorrrryy

[soccrsweetie15]

Wow I think this will be a great role for Zac! I'm going to try to read the book- its sounds interesting.

[Lady V]

I heard that the movie's set will be in Boston massassuchets ... If it's true Zac will be to one hour , to two hours of Vanessa new movie's set "beastly" in Montréal ...

It will be great ... I Will like

[Charlie St Cloud]

I heard that the movie's set will be in Boston massassuchets ... If it's true Zac will be to one hour , to two hours of Vanessa new movie's set "beastly" in Montréal ...

It will be great ... I Will like

I read that too.

[Lady V]

Ok

What do you think it's true ?
I think it's a possibility because the books scene takes place in Boston .

[cblodg]

Ok

What do you think it's true ?
I think it's a possibility because the books scene takes place in Boston .

I know part of the story takes place in and around Boston Massachusetts. We don't know any details about what the movie is going to be like.

I'm really hoping they keep it set in Massachusetts and keep the reason for Sam's death. If they do all that, then I really want them to come and film it here in New England.

So many films have tried to replicate New England's landscape, and you just can't do it with drop in shots and what not. Plus, if they keep the premise for Sam's death, you can't recreate Fenway Park on a sound stage. Sure, they'd have to CG out some of the more modern updates to the park, but that wouldn't be hard at all.

I just want him to do the film, and for the film to be filmed where it is set in the book.

[Lady V]

I will prefer they film in Boston , like this zac will be next to Vanessa ...

[Charlie St Cloud]

Ok

What do you think it's true ?
I think it's a possibility because the books scene takes place in Boston .

I think it is true but I really don't know.

[Charlie St Cloud]

The Death of Charlie St Clound starts in July.

[Lady V]

Yes , but there are no date ...

I would like Zac come with Vanessa in montreal the 15th June and then he going to go on the set of his movie when he started ... Like this they are still both


it's a sweet dream

[xxxILOVEZACxxx]

cnt wait for it 2 cum outx

[cblodg]

Amazon.com came through! My book was just delivered to my house, so I'll be starting to read it tonight!

[3Words]

I think they'll probably re-work the story a little to try and keep the character's age in Zac's age range. These are must my thoughts.

I hope they keep it set in New England as what leads to the accident is actually pretty important. I haven't yet recieved my copy, but I have been able to read a little online.

Where have you been able to read it on the net?

[cblodg]

Where have you been able to read it on the net?

I'm not sure you can read the whole thing online anywhere. Amazon.com will let you read a few pages on their preview page for it. Here's an address:

http://www.amazon.com/Death-Life-Charlie-St-Cloud/dp/0330488902/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1241454537&sr=8-1

Where you see the cover artwork it says "Look Inside" and they have a few pages that you can read, but it's not the whole book. Just enough to tease you with.

[3Words]

I'm not sure you can read the whole thing online anywhere. Amazon.com will let you read a few pages on their preview page for it. Here's an address:

http://www.amazon.com/Death-Life-Charlie-St-Cloud/dp/0330488902/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1241454537&sr=8-1

Where you see the cover artwork it says "Look Inside" and they have a few pages that you can read, but it's not the whole book. Just enough to tease you with.


Thankyou

[Lady V]

You don't have french reference please ?

[Charlie St Cloud]

I can't wait to see Zac in this movie.

[cblodg]

You don't have french reference please ?

Sorry, I don't. I don't even know if the book was translated or not. Is there are French version of Amazon.com that sells books in French?

[Bambola di Pezza.]

I will prefer they film in Boston , like this zac will be next to Vanessa ...
sorry but i don't think that's a good requirement :)
they have to do what's better for the movie,
not what's better for their relationship..
they will have their time to spend together :)

By the way, i think they didn't translate into italian the book.. i can't find it :|

[betweenthelines.]

he might actually film some of it in Boston
because a part of the book is set there
and the rest of it is set in a near by city
i live in MA so im gonna keep my fingers crossed
: )

[beeee.]

sorry but i don't think that's a good requirement :)
they have to do what's better for the movie,
not what's better for their relationship..
they will have their time to spend together :)

By the way, i think they didn't translate into italian the book.. i can't find it :|
thankyou for saying that!

[cblodg]

he might actually film some of it in Boston
because a part of the book is set there
and the rest of it is set in a near by city
i live in MA so im gonna keep my fingers crossed
: )

I hope they film in Fenway Park. As has been mentioned before, you can't just recreate Fenway Park on a soundstage or set.

[betweenthelines.]

I hope they film in Fenway Park. As has been mentioned before, you can't just recreate Fenway Park on a soundstage or set.

im pretty sure that they'll film it there. you can't recreate it and plus the part that takes place at Fenway is pretty important to the rest of the story.

[Charlie St Cloud]

im pretty sure that they'll film it there. you can't recreate it and plus the part that takes place at Fenway is pretty important to the rest of the story.

So true.

[cblodg]

So, I've started reading the book. It's excellent! I can really picture Zac in this character. The book is so descriptive that you can almost picture every scene in your head as you're reading it.

It really is a great story!

[beeee.]

i gotta get the book!!
haha.

[Bambola di Pezza.]

thankyou for saying that!
don't mention it :D

However i think that if i want to know what the book speaks about
i have to read the original version..

http://contemporarylit.about.com/cs/firstchapters/a/charlieStCloud_2.htm
is that the start of the book?

[cblodg]

don't mention it :D

However i think that if i want to know what the book speaks about
i have to read the original version..

http://contemporarylit.about.com/cs/firstchapters/a/charlieStCloud_2.htm
is that the start of the book?

That is the start of the book.

[Charlie St Cloud]

So, I've started reading the book. It's excellent! I can really picture Zac in this character. The book is so descriptive that you can almost picture every scene in your head as you're reading it.

It really is a great story!

Chris that is amazing.

[betweenthelines.]

ya it was a really good book
its such a sweet and interesting story
it took me less than a day to read
i really liked it : )

[BritGirl]

So, I've started reading the book. It's excellent! I can really picture Zac in this character. The book is so descriptive that you can almost picture every scene in your head as you're reading it.

It really is a great story!

I agree it really is a great story. I wonder what age they will make the main female character, as now I don't think she can be younger than Charlie and still keep her story the same, and her story is pivotal to the whole book.

It will be interesting to see what they do. She could just about be the same age, if not a year or two older as Charlie will have to be 22/23 at least.

[cblodg]

I agree it really is a great story. I wonder what age they will make the main female character, as now I don't think she can be younger than Charlie and still keep her story the same, and her story is pivotal to the whole book.

It will be interesting to see what they do. She could just about be the same age, if not a year or two older as Charlie will have to be 22/23 at least.

Yeah, I'm thinking they're going to be fudging around with the character's age and the timeline of the story itself. I don't think Zac is at the age where he could physically pull off a 28 year old. they'll probably bring the ages down, like you sad, into the early/mid twenties.

I'm wondering, you do you see as playing the female lead? No one's really coming to mind right now.

[betweenthelines.]

Yeah, I'm thinking they're going to be fudging around with the character's age and the timeline of the story itself. I don't think Zac is at the age where he could physically pull off a 28 year old. they'll probably bring the ages down, like you sad, into the early/mid twenties.

I'm wondering, you do you see as playing the female lead? No one's really coming to mind right now.

o gee. I dont really know. hmm maybe...
Leighton Meester
Megan Fox
Anne Hathaway
Alexis Bledel

I don't know if I can see any of them playing Tess though.
they'll probably cast an unknown

[cblodg]

o gee. I dont really know. hmm maybe...
Leighton Meester
Megan Fox
Anne Hathaway
Alexis Bledel

I don't know if I can see any of them playing Tess though.
they'll probably cast an unknown

Tess doesn't really come off as a "girly girl" in the book, and all of those are really 'girly girls'. Then again, a good makeup person can do wonders.

[BritGirl]

Yeah, I'm thinking they're going to be fudging around with the character's age and the timeline of the story itself. I don't think Zac is at the age where he could physically pull off a 28 year old. they'll probably bring the ages down, like you sad, into the early/mid twenties.

I'm wondering, you do you see as playing the female lead? No one's really coming to mind right now.

I wonder if they will go for an unknown, as she has got to be early to mid twenties. Other than that I can't think of anyone.

I don't mind them lowering the age of Charlie. In the book I can totally accept how he has lived for 13 years with his brother, but turning him into a real person it could be harder to carry off that story as a film will loose description and narrative the book can give us and you don't want the audience thinking how did he get away with that for so long.

[betweenthelines.]

Tess will be a tough casting choice
my best bet is that they'll go for a lesser known actress

they'll probably make Charlie a little younger and Zac appear older
maybe have him not shave for the movie and be all scruffy
change his style and dress him in clothes for the older crowd

[Lady V]

for Tess , I heard the name of Emmy Rossum ...

[cblodg]

for Tess , I heard the name of Emmy Rossum ...

Again, she seems too delicate. Of course I only remember her from Phantom of the Opera and Day After Tomorrow. She did pretty good in Day After Tomorrow.

[cblodg]

Tess will be a tough casting choice
my best bet is that they'll go for a lesser known actress

they'll probably make Charlie a little younger and Zac appear older
maybe have him not shave for the movie and be all scruffy
change his style and dress him in clothes for the older crowd

Zac's clothes is where the book's descriptiveness will come in. I mean I can picture him so clearly in the cemetery clothing. I'm not sure they'd have to have him look too scruffy. I mean, by the way the book goes, the character is an attractive person. Maybe have him have a little scruff, but not too much.

[betweenthelines.]

^
haha yeah not too much but just a wee bit of facial hair
and yeah the autor does do a good job with the sensory details

[cblodg]

^
haha yeah not too much but just a wee bit of facial hair
and yeah the autor does do a good job with the sensory details

Sensory details is right. Whooohooohooo. When it came to a cetain scene in the book, wow was that steamy.

They'll either turn that into a montage of quick clips or cut it completely out and leave only a suggestion of what happened.

Finished the book, and if they can stay realatively true to it in the movie, it's gonna be a hell of great movie!

The best part, it's based in real places in Massachusetts. Sure, some liberties were taken, but all of these places in the book exist as the author lived there and did research for this book there.

This is so exciting! I'm totally pumped for this! Anyone who doubts this as a good choice for Zac need only read the book!

[beeee.]

Sensory details is right. Whooohooohooo. When it came to a cetain scene in the book, wow was that steamy.


hahahahahhaahha

[cblodg]

hahahahahhaahha

Well, have you read it!? I'd post some, but it's not even PG-13 material really.

[Charlie St Cloud]

I am so going to read this book.

[betweenthelines.]

I figured there would be a scene like that
but I just guessed it would just fade to black
lol that was deffinatly not the case

[cblodg]

I figured there would be a scene like that
but I just guessed it would just fade to black
lol that was deffinatly not the case

Oh I think it will in the movie. But the book certainly didn't spare too many details that's for sure.

Depending on the rating, they'll either go to black or do a montage of clips from that scene. Can't think of a good movie example right now to compare it with. I think you get the idea though.

[betweenthelines.]

^
ya I get what you're saying. no matter what they do, this movie is going to be very different from anything he's done before. i'm glad he's shaking things up

[cblodg]

^
ya I get what you're saying. no matter what they do, this movie is going to be very different from anything he's done before. i'm glad he's shaking things up

It's only really that one scene that'll be interesting to see what they do with it.

Whole story is great. And it just validates what I've been saying about this role, this is the kind of role he needed and not Footloose.

I'm more pumped then ever to see this film! And if done right and released smartly, could garner some serious Oscar consideration(s).

[betweenthelines.]

I loved Footloose but if he starred in the remake, I think it would have been a career ender. This movie might actually get some oscar nominations. We all know that Zac's got the talent but I hope movie critics don't just look past Charlie St.Cloud because it stars "the kid from High School Musical".

[BritGirl]

I figured there would be a scene like that
but I just guessed it would just fade to black
lol that was deffinatly not the case


Oh I think it will in the movie. But the book certainly didn't spare too many details that's for sure.

Depending on the rating, they'll either go to black or do a montage of clips from that scene. Can't think of a good movie example right now to compare it with. I think you get the idea though.

If they make the book and leave THAT scene in, I would expect it to be rated 15 in the UK, the classification below that is 12A (A = adult has to accompany children) 17 Again was 12A, but think that would be too low for this film, with or without the scene.

But these days you can never tell!

[Liza]

I have to say I was kinda disappointed when I heard the Zac wasn't doing the Footloose remake, but this does look like a great career move. There would always be a danger of him being typecast. This film seems completely different from anything else he has ever been in and as someone said- may lead to some Oscar recognition.

[beeee.]

Well, have you read it!? I'd post some, but it's not even PG-13 material really.
i havent rea dit yet.
):
i cant ifnd the book.
is it that bad?

[cblodg]

If they make the book and leave THAT scene in, I would expect it to be rated 15 in the UK, the classification below that is 12A (A = adult has to accompany children) 17 Again was 12A, but think that would be too low for this film, with or without the scene.

But these days you can never tell!

It would be too bad if it were rated R (US system don't know what it is in the UK) because the book itself is not anywhere near an R rating. I'd guess they'd probably go with a PG-13, but I don't know. they couldn't get it with that scene I know that. They could probably get it with a montage of clips.

[cblodg]

i havent rea dit yet.
):
i cant ifnd the book.
is it that bad?


No no, the book is excelent! That one part is extremely, how would my mother put it, juicy, hot, steamy, WOW!

Let's just say, the descriptive nature of the author really shown through with that. It's a great scene though.

[BritGirl]

It would be too bad if it were rated R (US system don't know what it is in the UK) because the book itself is not anywhere near an R rating. I'd guess they'd probably go with a PG-13, but I don't know. they couldn't get it with that scene I know that. They could probably get it with a montage of clips.

What age and above is a rated R film for? UK 15 is obvious as I assume PG-13 means no-one under 13 unless with an adult.

The reason I don't think it would be 12A here is because there were really young children taken to see 17 Again in my local cinema, and this film is not for kids that young with or without that scene they would not understand it, and it's not a childrens book.

[beeee.]

No no, the book is excelent! That one part is extremely, how would my mother put it, juicy, hot, steamy, WOW!

Let's just say, the descriptive nature of the author really shown through with that. It's a great scene though.
oh right ok

R in UK would be an 18

[BritGirl]

oh right ok

R in UK would be an 18

It would not be an 18 in the UK. Is there any classification between PG-13 and R in the US, like we have 15.

[beeee.]

im sorry what?
lol

[Liza]

Our classifications here go U, PG, 12, 12A, 15 and 18.
I think britgirl was asking whether you had a classifcation similar to 15?

[cblodg]

It would not be an 18 in the UK. Is there any classification between PG-13 and R in the US, like we have 15.

Nope. We go from PG-13 straight to R. I would imagine that they'd go for PG-13 and they can still get away with some pretty sexual stuff in that rating. They won't get a PG. And I'd doubt it would get an R because parents wont take their younger ones to it.

[beeee.]

britgirl, i live in england btw.
haha

[beeee.]

Our classifications here go U, PG, 12, 12A, 15 and 18.
I think britgirl was asking whether you had a classifcation similar to 15?
I'm british too.
i live in england.
hahah

[Liza]

^^Lol ok!!! Apologies... :)

[beeee.]

Haha its ok.

i get that sometimes.
no idea why though lol

[Liza]

Well me being the naive person I am actually thought you may live in Hollywood?! And you seem to fit in very well. I'm just a tad special...

[beeee.]

haha noo
thats me being silly
but i really do wanna go to hollywood.
haha you should of seen my last location

[cblodg]

Haha its ok.

i get that sometimes.
no idea why though lol

I take it with your new location that you are, ehm, 'finnished in the back of Zac's Audi?'


I don't see St. Cloud getting a higher rating than PG-13.

[beeee.]

I take it with your new location that you are, ehm, 'finnished in the back of Zac's Audi?'


I don't see St. Cloud getting a higher rating than R.
Hahahaha!
Yeas.
Zac noticed the paparazzi coming.

[Liza]

Ok, tell me. what was your last location??

[beeee.]

haha ok.
well remember that im a very crazy person
[ask anyone here]
it was
Banging zac in the back of his audi.

[Liza]

Now that sounds like a great place to be... I like your style!

[PowerpuffGirl]

yeah Bee is crazy
trust me XP
Kidding lol

You guys really think that the movie could be nominated for an Oscar? Wow that's HUGE
I haven't read the book yet, so I'm excited to see how it is

[Liza]

I'm used to crazy!!!

And Our Zac deserves an Oscar just for his eyes... a bit cheesy perhaps? Maybe, but oh so true!

[PowerpuffGirl]

I'm used to crazy!!!

And Our Zac deserves an Oscar just for his eyes... a bit cheesy perhaps? Maybe, but oh so true!
Well, they don't have an Oscar for Best Eyes, but I'm sure if there was, he'd be an Oscar winner :]

[cblodg]

I'm used to crazy!!!

And Our Zac deserves an Oscar just for his eyes... a bit cheesy perhaps? Maybe, but oh so true!

I'm telling you, if this movie is done right, marketed right and released at the right time he could very well get a nod come Oscar time. One movie critic has already said that, and that was just from reading the book.

[beeee.]

yaay

[PowerpuffGirl]

Zac with an oscar
Thanking all the little people
I can see it now haha

[beeee.]

thank me please zac! im your bumblebee!

[PowerpuffGirl]

Zac- "I'd like to thank my own personal bumblebee for believing me and being absolutley awesome. Oh yeah, and my friend Rachel from Florida, who is just so amazing" :]

[Liza]

Lol, can I get a shout out too?

[betweenthelines.]

lol aww i hope he cries in his oscar speech : )

[PowerpuffGirl]

Oh yeah
"and Liza, my wonderful friend from Hampshire"

[beeee.]

Zac- "I'd like to thank my own personal bumblebee for believing me and being absolutley awesome. Oh yeah, and my friend Rachel from Florida, who is just so amazing" :]
ahha
yaay!

[Liza]

Thankies! That would make my life :)

[cblodg]

Zac with an oscar
Thanking all the little people
I can see it now haha

We'd all hear a collective thud. That would be the sound of all he haters doing this: :eek2:

[Liza]

It would shut all the haters up!!! Ignorant...um.... people.

[PowerpuffGirl]

We'd all hear a collective thud. That would be the sound of all he haters doing this: :eek2:
haha Zac would be like "Take that haters!!"

Oh, I almost forgot to put you in Zac's acceptance speech

"and to Chris, for being the best guy fan i could ever possibly have. CHARLA FOREVER!!"

[beeee.]

haha
even AFRICA?

[isabela.]

No no, the book is excelent! That one part is extremely, how would my mother put it, juicy, hot, steamy, WOW!

Let's just say, the descriptive nature of the author really shown through with that. It's a great scene though.

Now I wanna read this!! could you write it here or scan the pages, please?? I'm really curious about it!

[Charlie St Cloud]

I take it with your new location that you are, ehm, 'finnished in the back of Zac's Audi?'


I don't see St. Cloud getting a higher rating than PG-13.

I was thinking the movie might be a PG-13.

[cblodg]

haha Zac would be like "Take that haters!!"

Oh, I almost forgot to put you in Zac's acceptance speech

"and to Chris, for being the best guy fan i could ever possibly have. CHARLA FOREVER!!"


I'd hope to be in there somewhere. Hahaha.

[beeee.]

I'd hope to be in there somewhere. Hahaha.
"And thankyou to my step-dad, Chris. I love you man."
hahahhaha i can imagine him saying that!

[cblodg]

haha
even AFRICA?

Hahaha!

I have no idea what he'd do.

[PowerpuffGirl]

I'd hope to be in there somewhere. Hahaha.
Haha, and I even put Charla in there:)

[PowerpuffGirl]

"And thankyou to my step-dad, Chris. I love you man."
hahahhaha i can imagine him saying that!
ugh, that's better than the one i put lol
Step-dad xD

[cblodg]

Now I wanna read this!! could you write it here or scan the pages, please?? I'm really curious about it!

I'll start typing out the chapter now.

[beeee.]

ugh, that's better than the one i put lol
Step-dad xD
haha

[isabela.]

I'll start typing out the chapter now.

Thank you!! :mrgreen:

[Charlie St Cloud]

Zac with an oscar
Thanking all the little people
I can see it now haha

That would be great if Zac won a Oscar.

[beeee.]

: D

[cblodg]

This is going to take up some room and time. Here is part one of Ch. 25




Chapter 25

“Would you ever leave Sam?”
Tess’s question lingered in the glow of thee fireplace. Perhaps they were simply in denial about the facts or maybe hey were swept away by each other, but they had abandoned the gloomy subject of the shipwreck and ere dreaming out loud about what life would bee like together.
“Would you ever leave the cemetery?” Tess asked. Her face as tucked into Charlie’s neck. “I mean, would you ever come with me around the world?” She couldn’t believe she was asking the question, but it was true. She didn’t want to go solo anymore. She wanted to be with him.
“You’ve never seen me sail,” he said. “Be careful what you wish for.”
“Don’t joke. I’m being serious.” Then she found herself asking a question that seemed almost too direct: “Are you going to stay here forever with Sam?”
Charlie stroked her hair. “Remember that bullfighting book I told you about?” She nodded. “There’s a pass called al allimon where two matadors challenge the bull [together]. It’s suicide unless they're in perfect harmony. In Spain, they say that only two brothers know each other’s thoughts and movements well enough to pull it off.”
“You and Sam.”
“I couldn’t face life without him.”
He kissed her softly on the forehead, and she felt safe enough to ask once more, “So what about us? What’s going to happen to you and me?”
He pulled her closer. “trust your heart/ if the seas catch fire,” he whispered, reciting the poem from her father’s funeral.
“(and live by love/ though the stars walk backward),” she answered.
“That’s what I want to do with the time we have left.” He kissed her gently on the cheek. Then he whispered, “Come with me.”
He slipped from the couch and stood up.

More coming...

[Liza]

Steamy scene??/ Oooh please share :)

[cblodg]

part 2


Tess watched him beckon and she didn’t know what ttoo do. One candle was still burning on the coffee table. The fire was out. The room was silent.
“Come up stairs,” he said. “I won’t bite.”
“We can’t.” Tess said as the sadness returned. “It’s impossible. I couldn’t even knock on the door. I’m not really here.”
“Can you feel this?” he said, leaning forward and kissing her on the corner of her eye.
“Of course.”
“Can you feel this?” he said, running his hands across her shoulders and down to her breasts.
“Yes.”
“You’re still in between. You haven’t crossed over yet. Anything is possible.’
“Pretty smooth,” she said. “So is this how you get into a ghost’s pants?” She poked him in the ribs. Then he took the candle from the table and crossed the living room. “This way,” he said.
Tess followed through the darkness, up a steep staircase, down a little hall into his room. It was small and cozy, with a vaulted ceiling and exposed beams. A big craftsman bed took up almost all the space. He set the candle on the nightstand.
In the low light she could see Charlie take off his T-shirt and dive onto the bed. Below his muscled chest and stomach, his sweatpants were enticingly low on his waist. A small par of her wanted to play hard to get and make him work. It was a reflex from years of experience and disappointment. But that was ridiculous. This wasn’t the time for games. It was now or never.

more comming

[beeee.]

Ooooo
interestingg..
haha!

[PowerpuffGirl]

Interesting? More like HOT DAMN! That's steamy!

[beeee.]

hahaha

[cblodg]

Only warming up with the last part. Continue:



“Tell me the truth,” she said. “Have you ever done something like this before?”
“You mean sleep with a spirit on the second date?” He was flashing that incredible dimple.
“Don’t push your luck pal.” She pulled the clip from mher hair, and it fell around herr shoulders. She began to unbutton her shirt. And suddenly she noticed. The lines of her hands were softer. Her skin was fainter. Even the feeling of her clothes was different. Everything was less substantial. It took a moment to process, but then she realized.
She was beginning to fade away.
It filled her with pure terror. This was really, truly the end. Soon she would evanesce to nothing. It made no sense. Sam had promised the timing would be her decision. She had made up her mind: She didn’t want to go yet. She wanted to stay right there with Charlie.
“Hey, what’s taking so long?” he said.
“Calm down boy.” She didn’t know what to do, but there he was with his arms open. And so she finished the last buttons of her shirt and kicked off her shoes. She dashed over to the bed and blew out the candle. She didn’t want him to see her this way. She didn’t want him to know it was already happening.
Then she dived onto him, feeling his warmth against her own. Their fingers touched, and they were together, his arms encircling her waist, her hands moving around his neck. Their kiss was deep, connecting, like a familiar story with a beginning, middle and end. They caught their breath, and then she kissed his forehead, face, and shoulders.
Now her hands were on his chest, her fingers gliding along the faint ridges of hat seemed like scars. “What’re these from,” she asked.
“Burn marks when the paramedics shocked me.”
She kissed each one gently and then moved lower, gliding her mouth over his stomach and hips, untying his sweatpants, sliding them off.

more to come. Now we're heating up.:oops:

[beeee.]

omgg
and zacs playing this character!
haha
wow!

[Liza]

I am now a puddle of goo on in the middle of the floor!!! Wowser... this is gonna be good!

[Charlie St Cloud]

This movie is going to be great.

[beeee.]

I am now a puddle of goo on in the middle of the floor!!! Wowser... this is gonna be good!
hahahahahaha

[Liza]

I wonder who his co-star will be?

[beeee.]

I wonder who his co-star will be?
coughbeecough
: D

[Liza]

lmao!! Reckon he would audition a few of his fans? I'd be up for that...

[beeee.]

hahaha

[cblodg]

Here's some more:



Then her hands wrapped around him, all heat and power, and she reveled in a new discovery; He was the most perfect man she had ever touched.
She didn’t want to let go, but he rolled her over onto her back, unzipped her jeans, and in one fluid motion lifted her up to pull them off. His strength was impressive, and his instincts were very, very good.
He handled her as if she was weightless, and her anxiety began to melt away. After kissing for the longest time, they began to fold into each other slowly and smoothly, ad she felt him fill her completely. For the first time ever, venturing deeper, Tess lost her sense of where she ended and he began.
When it was over, they held on to each other with all their strength. Tess was afraid even to loosen her grip. She was clinging to love and life. Soon Charlie was ready again, and they found their rhythm. This time she dissolved into a sublime state that she had not even known inn her younger, wilder days. With sparks between every synapse and energy in every cell, the sensation was surreal, like the bliss she had always dreamed of ad had almost given up hope of ever finding.
Afterward, with Charlie resting his head on her stomach, she fet the tears begin to we up, then spill.
“Please don’t cry,” he said.
“I can’t help it. I want to stay here with you. I don’t want to go.’
“Don’t worry,” he said. “There’s no rush.”
But in the shadowed bedroom, he had not seen her fading form. She ran her hands through his hair and rubbed his sinuous back. She pulled him towards her once more. She didn’t want to waste a single moment. There was no time to rest or for sleep, for in hherr heart and soul she knew they would only have tonight.
There’s no rush…
The lies we tell ourselves, Charlie thought as hee kissed her nape and followed the muscles of her neck down to her shouldeerrs and breasts. He cupped one and then the other. They were so warm in his hands, and then in his mouth.

final part coming up...

[Liza]

Guh :o

[beeee.]

aw. no.
its so sad. she has to leave!
:'(
its going to be interesting so watch zac bang a ghost. hahaha
thats if they keep the scene!
aw. i cant stop thinking about it.
she has to leave him!!!
whyyy???!!!
[well i know why]
omgg. she can always keep watch over him<3

[Liza]

^^That's true you know!!! I bet they end up cutting it... god dammit :(

[beeee.]

we will all be jealous anyway

they're meant to be together forever!
seriously, i wanna be that lucky girl
hahaha

[Liza]

Uh huh.... I can be a very jealous person. Bad, huh?

[beeee.]

haha
aw.
im gunna read the last part then go to bed.
its 1am haha

[Liza]

This is true... I'm off work all week so it doesn't matter too much for me... I can't wait to read the next part!

[cblodg]

Here is the final part of the chapter:



She was right there – arching, twisting beneath him – and yet he knew this rapture was fleeting, and it only made him more ravenous. He ran his tongue along her ribs, over her stomach, down her sides, marveling at her nooks and curves. He kissed the points of her hips, then her thighs, and she curled up in giggles.
“No fair,” she said.
“All’s fair,” he answered.
Earlier, when she had flopped on the bed ad they had joined together, it had felt like some mysterious experiment. Could they really touch, let alone make love? Was this even possible? With disbelief and tentativeness, they had pushed against each other, like force fields, a flurry of friction and energy, mouth against mouth, hand vs. hand.
Now, this time, as he eased into her again, they merged ineffably. The resistance was gone, and so was the distance. Their bodies coalesced in ways he could not fathom, and the sensation was stirring and soulful.
And so, sweeping aside the impossibility of their union, Charlie pushed deeper and deeper and deeper into her until he was completely gone.


So, there you have it folks.

[Liza]

Ok... steamy...but ever so cute at the same time! I'm getting excited... and I smell an Oscar :)

Thanks for posting too. ;)

[beeee.]

wooooooooooow!
gooooo zacc
lmfao.
they're so meant to be!
lol
thanks for posting that chris.
(:
im off to bed now. hahaha.
ttyl

[isabela.]

thanks for posting!

they have to put this scene in the movie!!
is this at the end of the book?

[cblodg]

Ok... steamy...but ever so cute at the same time! I'm getting excited... and I smell an Oscar :)

Thanks for posting too. ;)

No problem. The book really is worth reading as the characters are so well developed and Charlie really is a great character.

[beeee.]

i really cant wait for the rest of the book.
[must buy itt]

[isabela.]

I wanna read it too, but I can't buy it here..

[cblodg]

thanks for posting!

they have to put this scene in the movie!!
is this at the end of the book?

That is chapter 25 of 37. But it's a really fast read. Small chapters, but the detail is so amazing that you can picture every scene in your head as though you were watching it as a movie. And I can totally see Zac in the role.

[PowerpuffGirl]

Wow... oh so steamy
t4p!
I can't wait until the movie starts filming. I wanna see what Zac's gonna look like as Charlie
Most likely amazing, as per usual

I can't wait to get the book!

[isabela.]

I hope he gets a different haircut for the movie..

[Liza]

He does need a trim, it has to be said... although when it flops in his eyes I am in heaven :)

[cblodg]

I hope he gets a different haircut for the movie..

I don't know. By the description in the book, Charlie has kind of floppy hair. I would guess along the lines of what he had for short hair on SNL or like the pictures on the banner of the forum.

[Charlie St Cloud]

Here is the final part of the chapter:

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So, there you have it folks.

Chris thinks for posting.

[cblodg]

Chris thinks for posting.

Not a problem.

I was happy to do it.

[Charlie St Cloud]

Zac is going to be great in movie. I can't wait to see it.

[beeee.]

I don't know. By the description in the book, Charlie has kind of floppy hair. I would guess along the lines of what he had for short hair on SNL or like the pictures on the banner of the forum.
maybe thats why its so long.
because he has to keep it long for the film.


i love his long hair anyway haha

[TheWayYouMakeMeFeel]

yeah same I agree with i love his long hair.

[BritGirl]

I go away for a few hours and pages of messages appear! :D

Thanks for clearing up the cinema classification question. It must prove tricky having no age between PG-13 & R, no wonder we hear about films being reclassified sometimes when they are given an R.

Thanks to Chris for posting THAT chapter from the book. I have read the book, and think it should stay in the film. Not just because everyone wants to see Zac with his kit off!! ;)

When you read that chapter in context with the book it is actually needed, and is telling and moving the story forward. They can't take one little sex scene out, which in fact is beautifully written in the book.

[beeee.]

anddd
interesting to see zac banging a ghost.
hahaha

[cblodg]

I go away for a few hours and pages of messages appear! :D

Thanks for clearing up the cinema classification question. It must prove tricky having no age between PG-13 & R, no wonder we hear about films being reclassified sometimes when they are given an R.

Thanks to Chris for posting THAT chapter from the book. I have read the book, and think it should stay in the film. Not just because everyone wants to see Zac with his kit off!! ;)

When you read that chapter in context with the book it is actually needed, and is telling and moving the story forward. They can't take one little sex scene out, which in fact is beautifully written in the book.

That's the one thing about this book that really makes it interesting. EVERYTHING has a meaning in it. It's not a long book, so it's like the author just cut out all the fluff and really got down to the details.

I agree, this has to be in the movie given it's context. You can still have a steamy sex scene in a PG-13 movie. I mean, Titanic had a couple of scenes, Pearle Harbor had one. That is a beautifully written scene and from the responses, it's one people want to see kept in.

[cblodg]

So let's put this out there:

Who do we see in this cast?

Charlie - Zac Efron
Sam- ???
Tess- ???
Florio- ???
Tink- ???

Various townspeople?

[beeee.]

sam his brother right?
i dont know all the character names.

coughdylancough

tess...
coughmecough!

[cblodg]

sam his brother right?
i dont know all the character names.

coughdylancough

tess...
coughmecough!

Yes, sam is his brother. Oddly enough, Dylan kind of matches Sam's description in the book. Though Sam is supposed to be his little brother and I think Dylan kind of stands close to, if not taller, than Zac's height.

Hahaha! beee.

[beeee.]

Yes, sam is his brother. Oddly enough, Dylan kind of matches Sam's description in the book. Though Sam is supposed to be his little brother and I think Dylan kind of stands close to, if not taller, than Zac's height.

Hahaha! beee.
maybe dylan could somehow make himself smaller.

bee play tess.
: D

[Sophielou]

I am not sure if they have held any auditions for these other roles or they have approached certain actors or actresses? I am really excited for Zac to get in this new type of role so we have some type of comparison from his previous movies. I do hope in the future that he plays a role where he is a bad *** or is a bit controversial as he seems to always play the likable character...it would be nice for him to change it up....just a thought.

[Bambola di Pezza.]

I go away for a few hours and pages of messages appear! :D
You're right it's crazy lol
However i'm going to the international book shop this saturday, maybe i'll find it *____*

[cblodg]

I am not sure if they have held any auditions for these other roles or they have approached certain actors or actresses? I am really excited for Zac to get in this new type of role so we have some type of comparison from his previous movies. I do hope in the future that he plays a role where he is a bad *** or is a bit controversial as he seems to always play the likable character...it would be nice for him to change it up....just a thought.

I'm sure he will. At this point though, he even said that he couldn't be taken seriously if he went right into a badass role.

The way I see this happening:

Idealy, I'd like to see Me and Orson Welles get a wide release in October. That gives him two completely different transition movies away from Disney and would make The Death and Life of Charlie St. Cloud all the more better. If Me and Orson Welles doesn't get a wide release (or one at all) the St. Cloud will be an interesting leap for him with the audience.

To me, Me and Orson Welles is the key to the success of St. Cloud. Welles is a dramatic film as is St. Cloud. But St. Cloud is a much larger leap from Disney and 17 Again.

Just my thoughts.

[Zacefronitis]

wow chris, just wow, that was awesome.
i don't know why but i loved the bit about his dimple and their banter sounds like one of my stories!
gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i won't be able to sleep now.

[Sophielou]

I'm sure he will. At this point though, he even said that he couldn't be taken seriously if he went right into a badass role.

The way I see this happening:

Idealy, I'd like to see Me and Orson Welles get a wide release in October. That gives him two completely different transition movies away from Disney and would make The Death and Life of Charlie St. Cloud all the more better. If Me and Orson Welles doesn't get a wide release (or one at all) the St. Cloud will be an interesting leap for him with the audience.

To me, Me and Orson Welles is the key to the success of St. Cloud. Welles is a dramatic film as is St. Cloud. But St. Cloud is a much larger leap from Disney and 17 Again.

Just my thoughts.

I do agree he needs to have a strategy where he transitions well from each role and I do hope Me and Orson Welles gets a wide release but we haven't even heard that much about this movie and it did quite well at TIFF? I guess I am a bit anxious to actually see this movie and seems like it is taking forever.

For me I am just a little tired of seeing Zac in the hearthrob type roles and want to see him where they actually showcase his true talent..... I would like to see him change it up a bit. I know eventually he is going to try and play every type of role imaginable and it is still early in his career. I am excited for him and his future and wish him all the best. :grin:

[BritGirl]

I'm sure he will. At this point though, he even said that he couldn't be taken seriously if he went right into a badass role.

The way I see this happening:

Idealy, I'd like to see Me and Orson Welles get a wide release in October. That gives him two completely different transition movies away from Disney and would make The Death and Life of Charlie St. Cloud all the more better. If Me and Orson Welles doesn't get a wide release (or one at all) the St. Cloud will be an interesting leap for him with the audience.

To me, Me and Orson Welles is the key to the success of St. Cloud. Welles is a dramatic film as is St. Cloud. But St. Cloud is a much larger leap from Disney and 17 Again.

Just my thoughts.

I completely agree with you. Me and Orson Welles has to be seen before St. Cloud, but the obvious problem as we know is MAOW may not get a big release. As it's had a trailer in UK cinemas I would hope for a general release here.

The main reason MAOW has to come first is Zac is playing younger then his own age in that film again (Richard Samuels is 17 if I'm correct) and St. Cloud will be the first serious film playing his own age or slightly older so has to be seen after all the "teenage" roles to move his career on to the next level.

This film is going to be a big leap in the world of movie making and leading man status.

[Bambola di Pezza.]

I completely agree with you two :)
(but it's too difficult for me to explain my opinion.. i wish i could speak english better).

[cblodg]

I completely agree with you. Me and Orson Welles has to be seen before St. Cloud, but the obvious problem as we know is MAOW may not get a big release. As it's had a trailer in UK cinemas I would hope for a general release here.

The main reason MAOW has to come first is Zac is playing younger then his own age in that film again (Richard Samuels is 17 if I'm correct) and St. Cloud will be the first serious film playing his own age or slightly older so has to be seen after all the "teenage" roles to move his career on to the next level.

This film is going to be a big leap in the world of movie making and leading man status.

Yup. Zac got a little bit of that 'leading man status' with 17 Again, but St. Cloud will really thrust him out there as you said.

As we both agree though, Me and Orson Welles needs to get released! I still can't believe it hasn't been picked up.

[Bambola di Pezza.]

me too, and i hope it will get released here in italy too..

[cblodg]

I completely agree with you two :)
(but it's too difficult for me to explain my opinion.. i wish i could speak english better).

By all means, state your opinion. We'll be able to figure it out. This is an important subject.

[Liza]

I am really looking forward to seeing Zac in a more grown up role. I think this is something he can really get his teeth into and will bring out the best in him. I just hope the rest of the cast is cast right :) (If that makes sense)

[BritGirl]

I am really looking forward to seeing Zac in a more grown up role. I think this is something he can really get his teeth into and will bring out the best in him. I just hope the rest of the cast is cast right :) (If that makes sense)

It makes perfect sense. Casting the right actors round Zac is crucial to this film and I'm sure they will get it right. We have faith in Burr Steers et al.

I also hope they sell it right, and don't just make it "Zac's" film for promotion like with 17 Again. It's the only thing that has annoyed me about the release of 17 Again. I know the backers wanted to get the tween audience probably for the last time for a Zac film, but apart from the US he did all the promoting solo. I just hope he does not have to do that for St. Cloud, this film needs the main leads involved with it's promotion.

[beeee.]

It makes perfect sense. Casting the right actors round Zac is crucial to this film and I'm sure they will get it right. We have faith in Burr Steers et al.

I also hope they sell it right, and don't just make it "Zac's" film for promotion like with 17 Again. It's the only thing that has annoyed me about the release of 17 Again. I know the backers wanted to get the tween audience probably for the last time for a Zac film, but apart from the US he did all the promoting solo. I just hope he does not have to do that for St. Cloud, this film needs the main leads involved with it's promotion.
i'll be happy to go with him, this time round
: D

[cblodg]

It makes perfect sense. Casting the right actors round Zac is crucial to this film and I'm sure they will get it right. We have faith in Burr Steers et al.

I also hope they sell it right, and don't just make it "Zac's" film for promotion like with 17 Again. It's the only thing that has annoyed me about the release of 17 Again. I know the backers wanted to get the tween audience probably for the last time for a Zac film, but apart from the US he did all the promoting solo. I just hope he does not have to do that for St. Cloud, this film needs the main leads involved with it's promotion.

Agree 100%! Unfortunately you'll still see him out all over the world promoting this thing. Let's face it, unless there's another big name in this movie, Zac is the biggest marketing machine there is. And let's not forget, Zac was fully involved with the marketing for 17 Again because he had alot riding on that movie.

Casting is going to be so crucial. They're going to have to find just the right people for these roles. Sam is going to be important and even more so is the role of Tess. I almost envision a Renee Zelwiger type actress only younger. I can't think of one right now.

Emmy Rossum was mentioned in this thread, but I don't think she's the right fit. Nor do I think Anne Hathaway is right either. The thing with Tess is, she's a sailor so she isn't necessarily a 'girly girl' but isn't really a tom-boy either. We don't want the audience thinking "oh look, there's so and so playing a sailor with zac efron." No, we want them to forget the actress is playing a sailor. I'm really trying to rack my brain and I just can't think of one.

[AFRICA]

Nah, Zac is fine where he is. The real way for Zac to transition himself is to continue taking photos with naked models and without a shirt. Continue to not bath for a month straight so people think that he is edgy. That's the way to do it.

When people speak about Zac they still say "Disney's Zac Efron" and until that stops nothing is going to change. If any of you know anything at all, it takes more than a couple of movies for that to happen. You all think "hey it's not a disney movie he should go for it". Zac still has a ways to go.

[isabela.]

Nah, Zac is fine where he is. The real way for Zac to transition himself is to continue taking photos with naked models and without a shirt. Continue to not bath for a month straight so people think that he is edgy. That's the way to do it.

When people speak about Zac they still say "Disney's Zac Efron" and until that stops nothing is going to change. If any of you know anything at all, it takes more than a couple of movies for that to happen. You all think "hey it's not a disney movie he should go for it". Zac still has a ways to go.

seriously, what do you want him to do? you're never satisfied!

[AFRICA]

seriously, what do you want him to do? you're never satisfied!

I do not live my life wanting Zac to do anything, I do not care. You should really stop focusing so much on what I say. I do not need to be satisfied with Zac, that's is of no importance to me. It's called an opinion, dictionary.com, look it up :)

[madisuun_]

Nah, Zac is fine where he is. The real way for Zac to transition himself is to continue taking photos with naked models and without a shirt. Continue to not bath for a month straight so people think that he is edgy. That's the way to do it.

When people speak about Zac they still say "Disney's Zac Efron" and until that stops nothing is going to change. If any of you know anything at all, it takes more than a couple of movies for that to happen. You all think "hey it's not a disney movie he should go for it". Zac still has a ways to go.

your pathetic. is it necessary for you to criticize everything he does? hes lazy...thats why he doesnt cut his hair and probably doesnt shower every single day when hes just at home. i doubt he doesnt shower cause he wants to seem edgy. esp cause he SAID he showers...your making yourself look like an idiot.

[Bambola di Pezza.]

By all means, state your opinion. We'll be able to figure it out. This is an important subject.
I was really excited when i knew about MAOW because i know that's gonna be a good movie, not only cinematically speaking, but thanks to the subject too.
It has been a challenge for Zac, but even more a challenge for the audience and the movie critics, because it will be evident that he deserves a certain consideration.
As you said MAOW maybe won't be easily released, and besides - for what i understood, i haven't read the book yet - Charlie st. Cloud is an even more challenging character. He doesn't play a child, he doesn't sing, and he's not the pretty boy (even if he's a good lookin character that's not the main attribute, is it?).
I think it's time to show which the real gift, which is not dancing, or singing (i love his performances of course), but especially, which is not beauty.
Everyone knows he's handsome, everyone knows he can sing, everyone knows he can dance.
He deserves to come out as a real and valid actor.
As we already know he is.

[cblodg]

I was really excited when i knew about MAOW because i know that's gonna be a good movie, not only cinematically speaking, but thanks to the subject too.
It has been a challenge for Zac, but even more a challenge for the audience and the movie critics, because it will be evident that he deserves a certain consideration.
As you said MAOW maybe won't be easily released, and besides - for what i understood, i haven't read the book yet - Charlie st. Cloud is an even more challenging character. He doesn't play a child, he doesn't sing, and he's not the pretty boy (even if he's a good lookin character that's not the main attribute, is it?).
I think it's time to show which the real gift, which is not dancing, or singing (i love his performances of course), but especially, which is not beauty.
Everyone knows he's handsome, everyone knows he can sing, everyone knows he can dance.
He deserves to come out as a real and valid actor.
As we already know he is.

Well said! Yes, Me and Orson Welles is a key for Charlie St. Cloud to help move Zac further away from that "all-singing, all-dancing" actor. He clearly has talent and The Death and Life of Charlie St. Cloud will showcase this beautifully.

[Charlie St Cloud]

Zac will do a great job in This movie. This movie will show people that Zac is amazing actor.

[Liza]

Zac will do a great job in This movie. This movie will show people that Zac is amazing actor.


Here here! I do believe this film will bring out the best in him :)

[isabela.]

I do not live my life wanting Zac to do anything, I do not care. You should really stop focusing so much on what I say. I do not need to be satisfied with Zac, that's is of no importance to me. It's called an opinion, dictionary.com, look it up :)

I don't need a dictionary to know what an opinion is..I just think that you could omit (is it right?) it if it's something negative, since you're on a Zac fan forum. to say something bad sometimes, ok, but you say bad things about him/his career in every post you do. It's kinda difficult not to focus on what you say, cause you're everywhere in the forum. And if you don't care, why you're always here? I really don't understand.

[Charlie St Cloud]

Here here! I do believe this film will bring out the best in him :)

so true.

[Lady V]

I heard that the young actress Emmy Rossum would be play the role of Tess ...

It's not confirm I believe

[Liza]

I'm sure it will be a great cast... the director won't let Zac down I'm sure.

[Zac19]

im just now reading the book, i cant wait for the movie!!!!!

[Liza]

I may have to buy the book... for research purposes!